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Okay, I'm saying this because there's a lot of coming out in the winter season, and I'mtrying to go for a year where I don't have them all spoiled for me. I've already found out what happens in Arkham City thanks to irl idiots, and I'm trying to avoid finding out anything else. My worry is with this site. We have spoiler tags, but they're not used properly. People will often just stick a spoiler in a tag without giving any indication of what it is, for example



and I know that if it continues an innocent post in the Offtopic thread will have a whopping great Skyrim spoiler that I'll end up opening due to no warning being given. So I'd like to ask that you update the rules regarding spoilers, asking people to post a blatantly obvious warning before any kind of spoiler that gets posted, along with the tags being used at all times. Also maybe try and discourage talk about new games outside of any threads for them. I know nobody reads the rules anyway (the huge amount of 'wry 1 n0 h45 4v474r' proves that) but it's worth a try anyway.

Uh, here here!

Only the really cool people who want prizes read the rules.

People have been very civil with spoilers in the Skyrim subforum so far, and when you are in a forum you always have to step with a foot of caution. This is a video game forum and you are, inevitably, going to read things you don't want, either because someone forgot to post a spoiler tag or from your own curiosity. However, if an overwhelming amount of people would like to see an announcement of some sort made, that might be something we can consider; it's more effective than reading the "rules no one reads anyway." Fair?

This is why I will not be around much for the next several weeks.

This site isn't the Wiki though. It's for discussion, not information.

And Avron, I meant everything spoiler... able in general, not just Skyrim. For example, I get the feeling someone's going to post a whopping spoiler for AC Revelations if something isn't done, wrecking my potential hat trick of being amazed at the endings.

Yes yes, Veck, I understood you. I would hope that people would have common courtesy enough not to post major spoilers, but my suggestion for now is to avoid those discussions. I will make sure we keep the General Discussion thread as a "general discussion;" video games tend to have their own thread in the multimedia section anyhow.

Isn't it possible to have different types of spoiler tags? One that just says spoiler, one that says games, one that says movies for example. That would be a good way to differentiate. I still agree that people should make it clear, but if more spoiler tags were added, that would help.

Well, I don't know how others feel about that, but in my opinion that is a bit excessive. A spoiler is a spoiler, and it should be in a thread with that topic to make it obvious. There isn't any reason to keep adding onto a system that does work if one uses it, and there's no reason why one shouldn't. But that's just my opinion; I'm more interested in what others think about this as well.

I do get [&@%!] off at people not using the spoiler tags to the point I want to stick their face into a large vat of poison laced magma. Can we make that a UESP punishment? much more effective then warnings.

I also hate it when people don't say how big the spoiler they are clicking is. I know the secrets of the companion guild now because some idiot made a post which lead me to believe the spoiler wasn't a big one.... what a phallus.

Just have to say that I've never had a problem with spoilers on this site. That might change if/when I start browsing the Skyrim forum, but I doubt it. The only spoilers that are likely to bother me are ones where the solutions to puzzles in the game are revealed. I get satisfaction out of figuring them out myself, so being given the solution would bother me a bit. I still don't think it would bother me enough to complain about it though. Story related spoilers are a complete non-issue for me.

I agree with Avron, spoilers are fine, if I dont click on spoilers in skyrim I have never EVER been spoiled in anything eles, I see no reasson for this rule

yeah, me too

i'll be around for socialising but not so much the debates on new plots, lore and similar threads
the forum orbits the wiki after all

I think this is more the problem she's pointing out, rather than spoilers for a game in a forum dedicated to that game. lol
i.e. There's a Skyrim discussion going on in the GD thread, someone makes a post and throws the whole thing in a spoiler tag.
People following the conversation will expect it to be a Skyrim spoiler, but then you click it and FFFFUUUU it's an AC spoiler.

Scrib's idea is cool:But I'm sure it's possible to get a code where you can just type

Just an FYI, I made a PM to the moderators about discussing Skyrim spoilers and details in the General banter section. It's something I just won't put up with because it is unfair on those who haven't got the game yet and don't want anything spoiled, even the small details play a big part in TES games. I would rather you sticked to your skyrim discussion thread then use the off-topic thread to discuss such things, at least then we can avoid that thread completely.

We shall see what this brings about.

I just posted about this in the General Discussion thread in the General Banter subforum. As far as I am concerned, as a Tea Party Moderator this ruling stands regarding Skyrim and the GD thread:



Everyone who quotes the wiki and forum clause about spoilers being rampant is correct. This is a TES forum. There are spoilers everywhere. However, the GD is not really a place to discussion games or things that already have a place on the forum. As I have said ten dozen times in the past, that thread is not a free-for-all. Yes, it is a relaxed thread and, yes, it has been difficult to stay on top of it lately since I myself can barely get into the forums (although I am doing all right now, it seems - bless you, server!), but that hasn't changed. There are places to discuss Skyrim and the Multimedia subforum has a thread for almost every other game you can think of, and detailed discussion about it should go there. Basically, you can discussion very general things about games in the GD thread, but detailed discussions about quests, characters, information, and anything that is even a remote sliver of a potential spoiler should be taken to its proper thread.

Furthermore, it really is important that we all be polite and respectful to our fellow gamers in this time of gifting and new releases. You may not like it, but I think it is more important to show our fellow members respect and to use the forums the way they were organized - for everyone's sanity, I may note - than to complain about how this works and that works. Everyone views the forums at their own risk of spoilers, yes. But everything, likewise, has its place here on the forums.

Hopefully that clears up some confusion, and hopefully you will all be kind enough to follow the idea, as I do not entirely find it up to discussion at this point. In a week or two, yes, perhaps, but given some difficulties with maneuvering around the site, I would like to ask that you all respect this notion for the time being.

I was making a broad statement toward everyone, not you, Duruza, so I assure you I didn't misunderstand you. This is a topic that's been brought to my attention by several people before this thread, to which I was replying.

That aside, unless anyone has anything to say about the decision or a suggestion, let's all put our amusement where it belongs - yes, ironically, in the General Discussion thread.

Could we also adress another issue? That of having spoilers in the thread titles. It makes it night impossible to use the "View active topics" button.

We can address that, Mars. It's a difficult answer since you do have to be specific in your subject line to attract the right answers, but we can certainly address the obvious ones. However, given the difficulties logging in I myself can only maybe do 10 actions a day, so you might have to be patient until then.

Just be cautious. Spoilers are everywhere.

This might be a simple way to help alleviate the problem. We could potentially request that at the start of any spoiler threads, you write spoiler. So instead of naming the thread "Main Quest part 8 SPOILERS", you name it "SPOILERS: Main Quest part 8". It's an easier way to help people not read the whole thread title, which may be a spoiler. I know we can't really enforce that, but if people were aware that that was a preferred method, it might work. Thoughts?

I agree Duruza, I was just offering a suggestion that might work for Mars. If you are in the section, you have to risk spoilers. As long as people put spoilers in the title though, and don't get too detailed in the title, it shouldn't be too bad. But that isn't something we can force people to do.