Lore talk:Akatosh

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[edit] Akatosh IS NOT the One

The One was a religious concept invented by Alessia to supplement the worship of the Eight Divines (which INCLUDED Akatosh!) and was the faith of the Alessian Doctrines of monotheism. The One is basically an appropriation of the Nordic Allmaker, and represents a fusion of Anu and Padomay, the Godhead totality the universe sprang from. Oblivion's sloppiness in the placement of the dragonfires (not to mention the irrelevance and misleading nature of the dragonfires in the first place) is responsible for this confusion. Do not revert the article until you have made your case. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.31.156.165 (talk • contribs) on 27 July 2008.

Matches what i've read, although a few references and maybe a note about the disparity in Oblivion would be helpful. --Benould^•T•C 20:32, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

It's not disparity since Oblivion never says anything different. Oblivion just portrays stuff that doesn't make sense and doesn't give a crap about who the One is. Details would be more helpful in the Temple of the One article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Temple-Zero (talk • contribs) on 27 July 2008.

Like it or not, Oblivion is part of Elder Scrolls lore, and to simply state that Oblivion is wrong about certain lore elements is a fallacy, because Oblivion IS part of the lore. If statements made in Oblivion are contradictory towards statements found elsewhere in the lore, this does not necessarily invalidate one or the other version of the lore. It simply means that there is a discrepency which should be discussed from both sides. There is not necessarily one and only one interpretation for what is seen in the lore, and not just because this is a fictional universe. (There are similar contradictory myths if you look at any real-world mythological source as well, or even at supposed historical events. Sometimes we just don't know what really happened.) This is why we prefer that statements made pertaining to lore be linked to in-game (or at least Bethesda-originated) sources, allowing the readers to see and decide for themselves which version of the lore they choose to believe. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 23:35, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

You don't understand. Oblivion did not present an alternate version of the One. Oblivion merely used old information presented in a confusing way. Nothing has changed with the One in TES IV. And I just gave you an entire page of sources and more. There are not two sides to this, so please don't lecture me without cause.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Temple-Zero (talk • contribs) on 27 July 2008.

I thought that the one was Talos. 83.59.146.119 14:35, 20 January 2009 (EST)

The One was the god of the Alessian Order, which is like Constantine declaring Christianity the official religion of Rome, banning all other religions, music, and dancing, and then leading crusades for a while until the new church broke up and everyone went back to worshiping Saturn and Mars and the rest, but kept the old temples because the stone looked nice.Temple-Zero 15:05, 20 January 2009 (EST)

I can see why it can be confusing seeing as Oblivion doesn't mention anything about two different religions. If that's the case then I agree that all information should be in Lore section of the Temple of One. That page could use some attention anyway. (Gadianzero 18:34, 20 January 2009 (EST))

We have an Alessian Order page, though it is even more stubbish.Temple-Zero 18:47, 20 January 2009 (EST)

If the information intermingles too much with each other then I think they should be merged into one large article with one redirected into another. I can't say I know too much about this area though. (Gadianzero 01:56, 21 January 2009 (EST))