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[edit] Holidays Colors

The holidays colors are not very well distinguished. You may want to change them to red, green, blue and yellow. --DrPhoton 03:10, 24 October 2006 (EDT)

[edit] Comment

Too bad they didn't make (or add the contents ((of)) a calender with specific holidays for Oblivion. With the mass info involved, and the seemingly "neat" festivals that are held, It would have been nice to see a "change up" in the lives of the citizens of the Empire.--69.146.8.142 03:04, 20 April 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Morrowind and Oblivion overlapping

Wouldn't it be fun to wait so much with your character in Morrowind before becoming the Nerevarine so the other hero in cyrodiil had already saved Tamriel? You'd hear stories about how Vvardenfel is safe again in Oblivion, while according to the timeline you're still busy doing that on Morrowind.. This is ofcourse only possible if I don't remember wrongly that there's only 5-6 years between the two games.. — Unsigned comment by Korunox (talkcontribs) at 00:34 on 18 February 2008 (GMT)

Actually, I believe in Oblivion, the incident in Vvardenfell was set a few years back on the timeline. The Hero in Morrowind had already disappeared, as the story goes. — Unsigned comment by Brandol (talkcontribs) at 01:39 on 18 February 2008 (GMT)
In oblivion it states the daedra are invadeing like all over tamriel and the Nerevarine had left on an expedition to akavir — Unsigned comment by 68.144.228.97 (talk) at 02:16 on 1 May 2008 (GMT)
FYI the exact text is "Rumor has it the Nerevarine has left Morrowind on an expedition to Akavir, and has not been heard from since." but it's only a rumor after all. –RpehTCE 02:05, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Thanks to Nephele

Many thanks for showing me a new trick, using [[#foo|bar]]. --Uniblab 17:28, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Someone please fix the Arena/Daggerfall calendars

I don't know who put the Oblivion-ified "Arena" calendar there, but it is wrong there. The calendar shown under "Daggerfall" is the one that both games --- Arena and Daggerfall --- used. I double-, triple, and tetra-checked this.
But the months in the Daggerfall entry are messed up; the days do not follow the natural rhythm --- where is it possible that each month starts on a monday when the month before ended on one?!? Everytime I put the changes there, someone takes them out again. Why? Can't the one bear being corrected?
kuli 19:54, 26 November 2008 (EST)

Addendum: the original calendar from Arena is [1].
--kuli 20:02, 26 November 2008 (EST)

This IS THE ORIGINAL ARENA CALENDAR! It was shipped with Arena. I know this because I own exactly this Tamriel Holiday Calendar in print from the TES:Arena cover box! Fools, everyone! --kuli 07:29, 29 November 2008 (EST)
Actually having looked at our article and the various calendars available on TIL it's pretty clear that the original version of the article here was correct. Arena shipped with a paper version of the calendar that was wrong, and that's what we have under Arena, with a note that the game actually used 30-day months. I'm afraid Kuli has the wrong end of the stick on this one. –RpehTCE 08:12, 29 November 2008 (EST)

[edit] Heartfire is spelled wrong...

Why is Heartfire spelled Hearthfire in the lore article? In the US version of Oblivion it's spelled Heartfire. Is it just an error, or is it spelled Hearthfire in Arena and Daggerfall? My Daggerfall and Morrowind installs are broken right now, so I can't check. Knightlag 14:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

The note tells why: Hearthfire is occassionally referred to as Heartfire, the name given to said month in TES:Arena.Elliot talk 01:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Chil'a

On our own website, I can find entries that put Chil'a on either the 20th or 24th of Evening Star. Looking around on other websites, I can also find it on the 21st. Can someone verify this, please? I'm not even sure where the info comes from. —Robin Hood (TalkE-mailContribs) 03:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Monthly Powers

You know what would be cool? Adding the birthsigns to the article! In the game, people born in different months get different abilities. Why don't we add that informations to the article? --Zander490 16:07, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

This article is about the calendar itself. Game-specific details are found in each game's namespace. --GKtalk2me 22:20, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
i believe he is suggesting that we mark what dates mark what birthsigns, like the zodiac IRL — Unsigned comment by 87.177.7.207 (talk) at 17:49 on 22 September 2010

[edit] Perseverence/Perseverance day

Well, which variant of the word should be used. As it stands now, the calendar date for 27 Sun's Dawn links to Perseverence day, while the article describes Perseverance day. Of course, that means that the calendar links to something that doesn't exist. Quill 16:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

The spelling in the Daggerfall text file is "Perserverance Day" (with the spelling error) so I've changed it to that. rpeh •TCE 17:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Seasons

Is there any rhyme or reason to the weather in Oblivion? Because I'm getting snow as far south as Bravil in what I assume would be summer (Midyear to Sun's Height) in my game. (I'm just a visitor and I don't know how to sign, sorry.) — Unsigned comment by 67.141.23.19 (talk) at 19:27 on March 25, 2011

I'm not sure about Lore wise, but gameplay-wise, weather is dependent upon the climate of the area. Each region has its own climate, which is a group of possible weather situations, each with their own percent chance of occurring at any given time. Snow is usual a possible, but very unlikely choice in many parts of Cyrodiil. --DKong27 Talk Cont 02:29, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Lore Perspective

A cleanup tag was recently added to the article (and was later removed), bringing up the subject of the silly provinceName and cityName variables strewn throughout the article. Daggerfall:Holidays already lists these in-game descriptions, and those kind of game specifications don't belong in lorespace. I propose that the holiday descriptions be slightly rewritten to sound less flowery and remove the variables (replacing them with "Iliac Bay region" or something to that effect). --Legoless 16:33, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Update the Calendar

With the patch 8 calendar was changed, now you start the game on a Sunday 17. Tested on Xbox and PC. — Unsigned comment by John LR (talkcontribs) on 28 April 2012

[edit] Hearth Fire

I believe this statement to be erroneous, my copy of kyrim uses "Heartfire": "In Skyrim, "Heart Fire" is used exclusively on the game calendar, although it appears as "Hearth Fire" (as one or two words) in some books." --OblivionDuruza 03:32, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Any programmers here?

It would be really great to have a Java applet or something here, or linked to from this page, that would allow us to calculate Tamrielic date information. I am thinking of something like this, but with more features and a webform interface. For instance, time durations across an Era border are not easy, being that there were 2920 years in the First Era, 896 years in the Second Era, and 433 years in the Third Era. Also, being able to compute the weekday (day of the week) for any given date would be handy. The tables on this page are great, but what if you are looking for a date that isn't actually in a TES game? This is the Lore namespace, after all, and we are not only concerned with events that occur in the games. Darictalk 22:36, 27 January 2013 (GMT)

We could do something in JavaScript, but I'm not sure whether or not we want one. • JAT 22:38, 27 January 2013 (GMT)
If you are wanting the UESP to become the premier place for Elder Scrolls knowledge, I think this would be a great addition to the site. Just think of how many lore discussions could be resolved by a simple, quick calculation of, say, the duration of a particular Emperor's reign. It would also be invaluable for my intended use of such a script: writing TES fan fiction that is lore-friendly. Darictalk 22:46, 27 January 2013 (GMT)
There is the Alchemy Calculator for Oblivion, something similar may be possible for a calendar tool. --Alfwyn (talk) 22:51, 27 January 2013 (GMT)

[edit] Skyrim, 2 years later?

What happens (in Skyrim, at least) when 2 years in-game has passed? The Calendar only show progression up to the end of 4E 202. I am currently at 4E 202, on the 6th or Rain's Hand. I know I still have a little while to go, but I am curious as to what happens. Does the calendar 'stop' and the day stays on the 31st of Evening Star, 4E 202, or is more calendar included, with only the first two years shown?

Piffinatour (talk) 22:07, 4 February 2013 (GMT)

It keeps going. I've got a character in 4E 203. I think the calendar shown here is just part of what was included with the collectors edition of the game. It by no means represents the limits of the game, which can presumably keep going indefinitely. Although I'd guess that there'd be a wraparound glitch if you took it too far, but that'd be at approximately 4E 2 Billion, or maybe just 4E 65536 if they used a short int for it. Either way not something most players are likely to see unless they cranked up the game-clock speed ridiculously high. TheRealLurlock (talk) 22:34, 4 February 2013 (GMT)

[edit] skyrim calendar subsection inaccuracy

the skyrim calendar section of the lore: calendar page seems to be out of sync with the actual in-game calendar.

let me give you an example that should reveal the formula for correctly shifting your dates represented for the year 201 and 202. (xbox) I chose to serve time in jail due to a small bug that could not be fixed otherwise. after stashing all of my stolen items in the breezehome loot chest, I walked outside and checked the time: "sundas, 28th of morning star, 4E" (does not list year for some reason but should be 202 considering the game starts half way through 4E 201) ...get arrested... after serving my time I checked the date once more: "sundas, 4th of suns dawn, 4E 202"

  • if you compare the dates in my example to the dates in the skyrim calendar subsection you will find that they do not correspond. perhaps I'm missing something and forgive me if I am, but these are the dates my game displays on xbox. according to the subsection calendar, the 28th of morning star is on a Turdas, ect... — Unsigned comment by 74.138.205.58 (talk) at 16:39 on 8 February 2013
I've noticed that the game doesn't always start on the same day of the week (at least in the XBOX version). It always starts on the 17th of Last Seed, 4E 201, but I've seen this date shown as Loredas AND Sundas on different run throughs.
Spacedranger (talk) 20:04, 25 February 2013 (GMT)
There is something above, that the starting weekday was changed with a patch. Looking through old savegames, that is consistent with my experience. Older saves agree with the calendar of 4E201, newly started ones are a day off (e.g. 17th of Last Seed = Sundas).
Another thing, Sun's Height is documented as having 31 days in 201 and 30 in 202 - is that intentional? --Alfwyn (talk) 21:19, 25 February 2013 (GMT)
(moved from IP's talk page) I too have noticed that the days and dates on my skyrim game do not match the calander noted here. — Unsigned comment by Purp1ehazze (talkcontribs) at 15:12 on 24 February 2013

[edit] Skyrim Calendar - Sun's Height

Another poster got me looking at the page, and while I'm not sure it's related to the problem he mentioned, Sun's Height has 31 days in 4E 201, but only 30 in 4E 202. If someone has a game spanning a long period, can they please verify this. I'm assuming, since it corresponds to July, that it should be 31 in both cases. Robin Hood  (talk) 20:19, 29 July 2013 (GMT)

Honestly, I think that the way the calendar was created in Skyrim got messed up. I have no proof (I haven't really tested it) but I am fairly certain that the calendar is based of the year that the character is created. So people who created characters this year would get this year's calendar, and people who created characters last year would get last years calendar. However, they didn't account for the fact that last year was a leap year, which causes characters to have months of different days in different years. All this would need to do to be tested is for someone who has a character created last year to check to see if the month that matches up with February has 28 or 29 days. I could be completely wrong of course :P Jeancey (talk) 20:41, 29 July 2013 (GMT)
Playing around a bit, it looks like the game always starts on the 17th of Last Seed, but the day of the week varies. As near as I can tell, it'll be Sundas most of the time, but it retains whatever weekday it was in the last game you had loaded, so if you load a game where it's Fredas, then start a new game, it'll be Fredas the 17th of Last Seed. That needs a little verification, though, as I didn't play for all that long.
As it happens, I've already passed Sun's Height 202 in my current game; reloading an earlier save, it had 31 days, so our calendar is just plain wrong. The leap year thing is something we'll have to confirm, but that should have nothing to do with Sun's Height, I would think. Robin Hood  (talk) 23:38, 29 July 2013 (GMT)

[edit] How do NPCs tell time?

Or more specifically, are there any timepieces in Tamriel? — Unsigned comment by 99.127.45.169 (talk) at 02:09 on 4 February 2014 (GMT)


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