Lore talk:Lorkhan

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How likely is it that Morrowind's 'worn and weathered note' is written as if from the view of Lorkhan, or at the least as if from the view of one of the Aedra? 'It appeared to me as real as the very wonders it was reflecting. I stepped forward to prove to no one and everyone that they were, by belief. For an aching instant I was betwixt the two and the summation. Confusion befell me and I fell through, only to realize I hadn't entered the lake, I had left it. With all of my remaining life I howled at the heavens and collapsed, like a star on the shores of my youth, as my life's breath wandered away from the home it had harbored. I have been drowning on dry land ever since.' Feldherren 16:58, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Missing God no longer missing?/Lorkhan and Talos

I don't remember clearly which, but a number of in-game books implied that the Missing God had taken several forms - "Shezarrines" - including Harald Harry-Breeks, a wizard with a Nordic name I cannot recall, Pelinal Whitestrake, Zurin Arctus, the Underking, and finally Tiber Septim, all of which were rolled into one upon Tiber Septim's apotheosis. I may have missed some, but it seems to imply that Talos is in fact the Missing God, and therefore no longer missing from the Cyrodiilic pantheon. Again, I can't provide details, or I would simply edit and add appropriate references. The names of a bunch of Shezarrines are all I've got. 32.155.213.85 02:44, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

The Nord's name is Wulfharth, there's also a Hans the Fox that was a Shezarrine.

Talos is a multi-entity being that includes Wulfharth, who is one of many, similar Lorkhan avatars. So he's not Lorkhan, he's just another (partial) echo that happens to hold Shezzar's place int he Cyrodiilic pantheon.71.244.119.102 20:51, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Moons

Whats the source on the moons recently starting to dissolve? --Max Welrod 04:38, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

It got added here, and the user who added it hasn't edited in three years so we can't ask. I've removed it for now as Oblivion clearly has the moons intact, and a Google search brings back nothing. –rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 11:22, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

From the unofficial cosmology document:

Masser and Secunda ('Jone' and 'Jode' in the Ehlnofex), the moons of Nirn, are the attendant spirits of the mortal plane. They are like the mortal plane in that they are temporal and subject to the bounds of mortality; in fact of this, the moons are dead and died long ago. The moons used to be pure white and featureless, but today their 'skin' is decaying and withering away. Their planes are likewise dying. Mortals perceive this as the moons being spheres with patches of their 'surfaces' completely eaten away; as the moons spin, they seem to become slivers or ragged crescents. These are not caused by shadows, because you can see stars through the black patches of the lunar spheres.

As paraphrased in the article, this detail didn't seem to be very helpful and clear, as it was suggesting that the moons may fall apart tomorrow. It does reinforce 'The Lunar Lorkhan's idea that the moons are his corpse, which isn't in the article and is perhaps the most important thing to say about them. I'm going to check up on the source for moons info that remain atm.74.65.142.202 15:32, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah... I think the stars are visible behind the moons in some occasions in Morrowind, but I think it was unnintentional, becouse it wasn't evident, nor was commented by any npc. Besides, as rpeh said, the moons are clearly intact in Oblivion... --Max Welrod 01:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

It probably was unintentional, but the Cosmology documents makes it intentional. Lunar Lorkhan references it as the Hollow Crescent Theory. The moons in Oblivion clearly aren't pure white. They are pockmarked in a universe where asteroids don't exist.Temple-Zero 04:01, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

The reason I mentioned Oblivion was that I assumed the document was written between MW and OB. As you can see here, the moons don't show stars behind them in Morrowind either. –rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 06:30, 9 August 2009 (UTC)