Lore talk:Tiber Septim

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Contents 1 Family Crest 2 Nordic? 3 Roman Emperor? 4 Serious Plot Hole

[edit] Family Crest

Does fan art really belong in that spot? Unless I am VERY mistaken, that did not come from Bethesda. It's fine where it is on the Septim family tree, but not here.Temple-Zero

With all the fan fiction you want to add (and have been adding) to our articles, I would have thought that fan art would be welcome. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 03:48, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

I've posted requests for information on Booyah boy's talk page (he originally uploaded the image) and on the image page. Unfortunately, given that Booyah boy has been inactive for nearly two years, I'm not sure that we'll be able to get any definitive answer from him on how he obtained the image. And it's a bit harder to track down image sources than factual sources (i.e., we can't just do text searches on every known source). So I don't think we can necessarily expect any prompt replies. However, if nobody has been able to provide any verification after a few weeks, then I'd say we should remove the image from all pages except Lore:Septim Dynasty and add some disclaimers to the image summary and any image captions. In its place we could perhaps use an image of just the central, diamond-shaped dragon logo (which is official; see, for example, the cover of PGE3). --Nephele^Talk 16:45, 8 September 2008 (EDT)

It's been two months, and the only new information is more evidence that it's unofficial (see here). Therefore I've removed most instances of the image, and changed the caption on the remaining article to state that the crest is unofficial. --Nephele^Talk 21:13, 11 November 2008 (EST)

[edit] Nordic?

Where does it say he was Nordic? I'm a bit confused. 98.198.83.12 20:56, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

He was born in Atmora. –Elliot ^talk 05:15, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

That's propaganda, though. No one has come from Atmora for over three thousand years. He was born in Alcaire and took on a Nordic name and aspect.Temple-Zero 05:30, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay, you know more than me. :) Perhaps it should be mentioned in the article? –Elliot ^talk 05:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I believe the two versions of the story are already covered in the Orthodoxy and Heresy sections?Temple-Zero 15:38, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but it is rather clouded within the article. –Elliot ^talk 15:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

It's clear enough. The "official" version is that he came from Atmora, which is clearly nonsense as Temple-Zero points out. The "heresy" is that he came from High Rock. Even though that is clearly true, it is still heretical because of the official nature of the other story. Dr Jones 16:15, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Roman Emperor?

Anybody notice that the name Tiber Septim came from Ancient Roman Emperors? Tiberius and Septimius Severus. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.179.18.91 (talk • contribs) on 18 October 2009.

The Roman influence on the names of the Imperials is more than obvious. --Timenn-<talk> 12:16, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Serious Plot Hole

Does anyone have any more information on Tiber Septim. One big oversight that I see is, how exactly did Tiber become one of the nine divines? Is it pseudo history, or did it actually happen? Your records only indicate that he "died."

The article is incomplete. He achieved apotheosis via a mysterious, arcane process involving Numidium and its Mantella, an avatar of Lorkhan, and the related mythically significant struggle.132.162.76.105 18:39, 15 November 2009 (UTC)