Morrowind talk:Quests

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The information on the reorganization of this page is here, right? Will the headers all be divided into the cities, or will you still be able to access all the faction-related quests in one page? How would I best help you in this endeavor? Sstasino 15:42, 2 November 2006 (EST)

All the Faction related quests will be under the appropriate faction headings; the city headings will contain the miscellaneous quests associated with the various cities not tied to a particular faction. The quests are being placed on individual quest pages, and in many cases are being rewritten and expanded to be more informative. The size of the resulting page and the links involved in tying the pages to related items on the wiki makes it difficult to manage the pages and serve them up to readers through the server, so we will be breaking the currently very large pages up.

In addition, links are being inserted within the quest pages to tie to the locations involved, the people involved and any goodies or enchanted prizes that you get from the quest. This is a massive project that involves not only reworking the quest pages, but adding NPC and location pages as well. You assistance is most welcome...you can either start a discussion on my talk page, or feel free to join us in the IRC chat room...I'm there most evenings --Hoggwild5 16:13, 2 November 2006 (EST)

Contents 1 Questionable deletion 2 Header 3 Declining a quest doestn't finish it in the journal? 4 Corresponding map markers? 5 gold, a Link?

[edit] Questionable deletion

Uh. "deleted towns with no starting miscellaneous quest" - I seriously disagree with this edit. I brought Balmora back. Its missing from the list will only make people wonder where it is. Furthermore, there has been not made a decision only to include cities that contain specific miscellaneous quests. Then again, listing all possible quests on the town pages is excessive IMHO. --FMan | Talk (contribs) 20:18, 7 March 2007 (EST)

Well, the city links here where placed for the miscellaneous quests starting on each city and due to historical reasons, there where lots of wilderness quests associated with each city. In Morrowind Talk:Miscellaneous Quests we have discussed this recently and decided to move the wilderness quests to Morrowind:Miscellaneous Quests, and I consequently removed the links of the cities not having any miscellaneous quests left that start there (and Balmora is one of them).

Regarding the listing of quests in the town pages, see Morrowind Talk:Ald'ruhn#Related Quests. --DrPhoton 11:16, 8 March 2007 (EST)

DrPhoton, I'm not sure that only listing cities where miscellaneous quests start is the right idea. Someone may want to easily find ALL the quests starting in those cities, so they can easily do faction quests. So I think those links should be on the page. What are your thoughts? --Ratwar 14:11, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, the way I see it is that people come here looking for info on a specific quest or looking to start another quest. In this case, the clasification in this page is clear: Main Quest, Great House Quests, Guild Quests, Town Quests, and other Miscellaneous Quests. Including places with related quests here can be confusing for people willing to start a new quest (see Morrowind Talk:Ald'ruhn#Related Quests), e.g. adding Balmora may lead someone to think that they can start a new town quest there, when that is not true. If someone wants to find all related quests to a particular place, they are all listed in that place's page. In any case, I am open to suggestions on how we can better organise this page. --DrPhoton 09:27, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Two points, gents. First, can we get rid of the first person in the opening paragraph, please? Brr... Second, I think that if I were coming here blind, and I saw town quests, I'd want to click on a town and get all its quests, including faction ones. Like, say I'm in Ald'ruhn, and don't want to leave, but don't know what else to do, I'd come here, to see what quests are left in that town. Somercy 12:44, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

Instead of just leaving the town out, without explanation, why not list it and state explicitly that it does not have any miscellaneous quests? Combine that with a link to the town page, where all related quests are listed, and you have combined ease of use with the desired non-redundancy. -- JustTheBast 13:16, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

This sounds like a good compromise. However, if we are going to include related quests, then we need to define where we draw the line on what is a town and what isn't, e.g. is Khuul a town? and the farms or manors in the Ascadian Isles region? BTW, Somercy, if you're in Ald'ruhn, why not go to its page to see all the related quests?

Oh, well there is that. Khuul is a town, but farms and other non-town locations need a seperate page. "Farms," or "Non-Town Quests," like the assassin at Sterdecan's Farm thing. Somercy 13:18, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Are you suggesting we list all locations with a related quest? This is exactly what I wanted to avoid by deleting those towns. All related quests can already be accessed through the location pages. --DrPhoton 04:57, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Header

I personally feel that there's too much of a spoiler warning going on in the opening paragraph. I mean, the entire site's a spoiler, so why make it so...mollycoddling? Can we find a happy medium here? Somercy 12:23, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

Although the whole site is a spoiler somehow, I beleive there still should be a warning here. Any suggestions? --DrPhoton 13:08, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, something less obtrusive than we have now--perhaps a sentence at most--like, "Certain plot points and spoilers are contained within these walkthroughs." Nothing bigger, I think. Somercy 12:19, 19 March 2007 (EDT)

OK. What about this:

Warning: Certain plot points and spoilers are contained within these walkthroughs.

--DrPhoton 04:27, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Declining a quest doestn't finish it in the journal?

Rpeh, I noticed you removed the from A rash of Insults after checking in the CS. Does that mean the quest doesn't close if you decline it? Sounds unlikely. --Benould^•T•C 01:22, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

I don't know. Perhaps it means you can go back later? I was simply responding to your "check it in the CS" plea so it could probably do with in-game checking. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 01:33, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Corresponding map markers?

First time I've ever tried this so hopefully I'm posting this in the right place!

Question is why there aren't corredsponding map markers for the quests. I understand that there's information on how to get to certain places, but wouldn't it be easier to find for the normal gamer if there was a screen shot of the map area and a marker as to where you're actually going? With towns this isn't a problem but I'm talking more along the lines of caverns and such. KamekoHaru 00:31, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

May I point you to our maps? There are several online maps there, like moromap. Further, all places have location coordinates in the Place Description box. Having map shots may be a good idea, it would take someone to take it on and commit resources to it. The Community portal might be a better place for your suggestion. --Hope this helps, Benould^•T•C 02:35, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

[edit] gold, a Link?

Hello all,

I've recently been going through all the Morrowind quest pages and

• a) Adding fins tags.
• b) Adding links.
• c) Changing Septims/Drakes/Gold to gold.

The thing is that someone who shall remain unnamed has been going through them after me and removing all the gold links, and capitalizing "gold", saying that they're unnescessary. I've posted this here so that we can discuss the matter and eventually come to a conscensus, before I go hammering on through the rest of the quests. Note: This is not a personal attack on the person who reverted all the links. - Game Lord^{Talk|Contribs} 10:19, 22 April 2008 (EDT)

First of all, thanks for finishing up the MW quests. Gold should probably capitalized as a proper Game Term. As to linking, hmm, can't see it hurts or adds much, if it doesn't add much to the server load, just be consistent. A link would probably more justified if it led to an article about money and the different terms used in-game, and not to a line in an item table. But multiple reverts on something minor, hmm, is that a good use of everyones' time? My .02... --Benould^•T•C 15:53, 22 April 2008 (EDT)

Well gold was decided to be small case in this dispute. As for the link, I think that if it doesn't actually have negative effects, then why not? - Game Lord^{Talk|Contribs} 05:13, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

Just read the discussion, gold it is XD. Actually, that debate has a lot of good info in it, maybe enough for a short article on Money and its names... How many quests do you have left, with no link to gold in them?--Benould^•T•C 05:27, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

About half the Mages Guild, Hlaalu, Redoran, and Telvanni, all the daedric, Thieves Guild, Morag Tong, Temple, Imperial Legion, Vampiric, Ashlanders, and Misc. Also I need to go through the Fighters guild again to change it to lowercase after someone else changed them all back. All in all, I've got enough to do for the next two months or so :) - Game Lord^{Talk|Contribs} 05:35, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

Sorry, I was under the (obviously mistaken) assumption that, as the majority of people in the original discussion had voted for 'Gold', this was the agreed terminology. I didn't realise that Lurlock had overridden the vote.

Regarding the links for gold/Gold/whatever, sorry but yes, I think they are unnecessary, and I don't think they are really appropriate. If there was a specific page for gold, then yes, but I don't see the point in linking to a line in a miscellaneous table. --Gaebrial 06:00, 23 April 2008 (EDT)