Oblivion:Paradise

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1 Quick Walkthrough
2 Detailed Walkthrough
3 Notes
4 Journal Entries
5 Maps

Enter Mankar's Paradise, and retrieve the Amulet of Kings. ^edit

Quest Giver: Martin at Cloud Ruler Temple
Location(s): Mankar Camoran's Paradise
Prerequisite Quest: Great Gate
Next Quest: Light the Dragonfires
Reward: Progression in the story line.
Fame/Infamy: Fame +2
ID: MQ15

The entrance to Mankar Camoran's Palace, Carac Agaialor.

[edit] Quick Walkthrough

Enter the portal to Mankar Camoran's Paradise.
Obtain the "Bands of the Chosen" by killing Kathutet or completing a quick task for him.
Complete another quick task for Eldamil to remove the Bands.
Follow the path to Carac Agaialor.
Kill Mankar Camoran and loot his body for his enchanted robe.
Teleport back to the Cloud Ruler Temple with the Amulet of Kings.

[edit] Detailed Walkthrough

[edit] Enter the Portal

Go to Cloud Ruler Temple and find Martin ready to open the portal to Mankar Camoran's Paradise. He warns you that the portal will close behind you once you enter. Tell him that you are ready and he will open it. Go through as if it were an Oblivion gate.

[edit] Kathutet

You will hear Mankar Camoran's voice in your head, however, you can more or less ignore it. Follow the white broken path until you find the Dremora Kathutet. He has the Bands of the Chosen, and you can get it several ways. Obviously, you could kill him, but you can also accept the task he gives you (being his servant) which is just running to a cave (follow map marker) and knocking out two logs holding a boulder back that has trapped the Xivilai Anaxes. If you kill Anaxes, you will find Kathutet where he was before, he will become angry at you and you'll be forced to fight him. Either way, carry on until you reach the flooded grotto. Camoran will continue to talk to you. Fight your way through then put on the Bands of the Chosen when you get to the exit. If you have freed Anaxes, Kathutet will meet you here to give you the Bands of the Chosen. You can now enter the next area but you cannot remove the bands yourself. If you don't take the bands you will ultimately have to go back to his corpse to grab them and open the door.

[edit] Removing the "Bands of the Chosen"

Eventually you will be approached by Eldamil, an Altmer Mythic Dawn Agent, who will offer to remove the bands if you tell him that you plan to kill his master. He will ask you to act like his prisoner. Soon a Dremora (Orthe) will approach and test your prisoner-like qualities. You will be told to step into the cage to be lowered into the lava river. Don't worry, you can trust Eldamil not to kill you. Get in the cage. You will be raised back up and Eldamil will tell you to meet him in the next area where he will remove your bands, as he cannot cross the lava himself. Meet him there and he'll do just that. He might die (maybe killed by Orthe himself), but it doesn't matter: he's immortal as the other creatures in this Paradise. Alternatively, you can just attack and kill Othre when he begins to talk with Eldamil. You're now able to escape through the next door and back into Paradise. He will continue to follow you through the remainder of the quest.

[edit] Defeat Mankar Camoran

Follow the path to Carac Agaialor (Camoran's Palace). If you stray too far off the path you'll be warped back to the door you just left. Going down the path, you'll meet Mankar's children. They will lead you to their father who, after a speech, you will get the chance to kill.

Raven will summon Mythic Dawn Armor and a bound sword to attack you, while Ruma will stay back and use her staff (a random leveled destruction staff) at range. Mankar himself will simply sit and watch the battle until you either approach him or both Raven and Ruma are dead. He is a Master of Conjuration magic who will summon powerful leveled Daedra, and he has a variety of other magic, including Silence, strong healing spells, and Disintegrate Armor and Shock Damage spells cast by his staff. He also has a fairly large amount of health, and his robes have reflect damage and spell absorption enchantments on them so use caution when attacking him.

Focus on Mankar, unless you want to loot the others, because they'll keep respawning until you kill their father. It is possible to kill them before entering the area with Mankar, and this will of course help in the fight, as you don't have two extra people attacking you.

As soon as Mankar is dead, Paradise will begin to collapse and after a short time you will be teleported back to Cloud Ruler Temple. During that time you can loot his body for his staff and enchanted robe if you want (but you don't need them to complete the quest). When you get back you'll have the Amulet of Kings in your possession (even if you didn't loot it).

[edit] Notes

Do not cast any Bound Gauntlets spells while wearing the Bands of the Chosen. This will trigger the Permanent Quest Item Effect glitch and leave you with a permanent 50% Weakness to Fire.
Camoran explains a lot about the world of Tamriel and Oblivion, clearing up some vagueness that you may have encountered - or possibly introducing more, since he contradicts other sources directly (see Mankar Camoran's page).
The Daedra found in the outdoor areas of Paradise will respawn fairly quickly. Keep an eye behind you!
If you set Anaxes free, leave his lair quickly while he is dealing with his captors. If he sees you fighting Daedra, he will join in on their side.
If you don't want to be the prisoner of Eldamil in the forbidden grotto, you can also continue after talking to him and kill the Dremora guards. In the next area, he will appear again to free you from the bands (he is immortal, remember?). He even offers to join you to fight Camoran.
If you kill Camoran's children before you enter the chamber, you can loot their bodies and they will respawn, and you can kill them again and they will respawn, and so on. The son has a leveled magic ring. You can collect multiple copies of this ring but the game will only let you wear one at a time. You can also keep killing them when you enter the chamber, just be sure not to touch Mankar or it will make the battle much harder.
If you talk to Mankar during his monologue, he attacks immediately.
If you fall off the mountain at Carac Agaialor, you will be transported back to the exit of the forbidden grotto. Eldamil will run back to you.
Paradise is the only place where you will find mana bloom (outside of Frostcrag Spire and the Anvil Mages Guild). The blue flowers are Lichor, an ingredient that has one effect-Restore Magicka. The red flowers are Ambrosia, and also have one effect- Restore Health. These ingredients are located off the path, and there are tons after the forbidden grotto.
Paradise contains two boss-level chests. The first is a Fleshy Pod south of Carac Agailor's mountain, on a ledge next to the ocean. The second is on an island east of the main island, which can be accessed by walking along the coast around the island. On the island you will find the Spectral Mud Crab (which carries a couple enchanted items) and a boss-level ayleid reliquary. Finding the loot and killing the crab must be done before you complete the forbidden grotto section as they are unobtainable after resurfacing. The game only allows you to travel so far in any given direction before automatically returning you to where you resurfaced.
Killing Eldamil apparently counts as a murder, so he is safe to kill in order to gain entry to the Dark Brotherhood. Since he is immortal, comes back in a few moments, and doesn't seem to mind that you killed him, there are no consequences.
For those looking for an easy way to raise your Sneak skill, sneak behind Camoran as he gives his speech, you should be able to pickpocket him several times before he attacks you, allowing yourself some easy skill advancement without negative consequences.
Attempting to sit in Mankar Camoran's Throne will paralyze the player for 3 seconds; it is impossible to actually sit on the throne.
There is an Ayleid Coffer under the water north of the Flooded Grotto, containing some gold and a soul gem or two. It is easily found via just searching the water where it meets the shore.
Paradise is, keeping with Mankar Camoran's visions of the Mythic Dawn, continually lit as if it were morning. Fortunately for vampire characters the sunlight in this realm is harmless.

[edit] Journal Entries

Paradise (MQ15)
Stage	Finishes Quest	Journal Entry
0
10		I should prepare myself to travel to Camoran's Paradise and take back the Amulet of Kings from Mankar Camoran. When I am ready, I should meet Martin in the Great Hall at Cloud Ruler Temple.
15		Martin performed the ritual and opened the portal to Camoran's Paradise. He warned me that the portal would close behind me. Martin believes that since Mankar Camoran bound himself to the Mysterium Xarxes in the creation of Paradise, I can only return to Tamriel by killing him. I must enter the portal, kill Mankar Camoran, recover the Amulet of Kings.
20		I have arrived in Camoran's Paradise. The portal closed behind me. I must find Mankar Camoran, kill him and recover the Amulet of Kings.
30		I met a dremora named Kathutet who offered to help me get into the Forbidden Grottos if I helped him by freeing a Xivilai that the Mythic Dawn immortals have trapped in a cave. He claimed that the only way to leave the Savage Garden was by wearing the Bands of the Chosen, which he would give me if I help him.
32		I met a dremora named Kathutet who told me that he holds the key to the Forbidden Grotto, which he claims is the only way out of the Savage Garden. I should find out what this key is and get it from him. (If stage 30 has not been completed)
33		The Dremora Kathutet claims that something called the Bands of the Chosen are the key to the Forbidden Grotto, the only way out of the Savage Garden. I should get these Bands from him.
35		I found a Xivilai trapped in a cave, and set it free. (If stage 30 has not been completed) or I freed the Xivilai Anaxes from the cave where he was trapped. I should return to Kathutet and see if he will give me the Bands of the Chosen, as he promised. (If stage 30 has been completed)
36		The Xivilai Anaxes is dead, although Kathutet told me not to kill it. I should find out if he will still give me the Bands of the Chosen, as he promised.
40		I killed the Xivilai that I freed from the cave. (If neither stage 30 nor stage 40 have been completed) or The dremora Kathutet gave me the Bands of the Chosen, which he says will let me escape the Savage Garden into the Forbidden Grotto. I should find the door to the Forbidden Grotto and see if he was telling the truth. (If stage 30 has been completed by stage 40 has not)
42		Kathutet was angry at me for killing the Xivilai. I will have to take the Bands of the Chosen from him by force.
45		I took the Bands of the Chosen from a Dremora named Kathutet. Perhaps they will provide the means to help me escape from the Savage Garden and reach Mankar Camoran. (If none of stages 30, 32, 33 or 40 have been completed) or I have the Bands of the Chosen. I should find the door to the Forbidden Grotto and see if he was telling the truth. (If stage 40 has not been completed but one of 30, 32 or 33 has)
50		I have entered the Forbidden Grotto. Now to find my way through to the Terrace of the Dawn where I hope to find Mankar Camoran and the Amulet of Kings.
51		(set when Orthe et al warn player to get out of their area)
54		I met a High Elf named Eldamil. He served Mankar Camoran and the Mythic Dawn on Tamriel, but since coming to Gaiar Alata and seeing the true nature of Mankar Camoran's 'paradise', he claims to have regretted his deeds. He warned me that it was impossible to leave these caves while wearing the Bands of the Chosen, and offered to help me by removing them.
56		I accepted Eldamil's offer to help me escape the Forbidden Grottos. Eldamil wants me to pretend to be a prisoner until his Dremora overseer finishes his inspection. I wonder if I can trust him.
57		(Orthe starts conversation with Eldamil)
58		(finish conversation with Orthe; Orthe waits while Eldamil urges you into the cage)
60		(player enters cage)
62		(Eldamil throws lever to lower cage)
64		(open the gate in Orthe's room)
65		(Cage reaches bottom)
66		(cage reaches top)
67		Eldamil told me he would meet me further into the caves where he would be able to remove the Bands of the Chosen from my wrists. I should continue searching for a way through these caves to Mankar Camoran's palace.
68		(player enters Grotto 3)
70		Eldamil removed the Bands of the Chosen. I should now be able to leave the Forbidden Grotto and continue on my way towards Mankar Camoran's palace at the top of the mountain.
72		(set if the player agrees to Eldamil's help)
75		(trigger for Ruma and Raven to follow player)
78		(Mankar Camoran starts speech to player)
79		(Mankar's speech done (timer sets stage 80))
80		I found Mankar Camoran in his palace of Carac Agaialor. Now I must kill him and take the Amulet of Kings back to Tamriel.
82		(player attacks Mankar -- make him run)
85		(Mankar Camoran attacks player)
89		(Mankar Camoran is dead -- trigger "End of Paradise")
90		I killed Mankar Camoran. Upon his death, the Paradise he had created dissolved around me, and I found myself back in Cloud Ruler Temple with the Amulet of Kings in my hand. I must give the Amulet to Martin.
91
92		(trigger Martin to forcegreet)
95		Martin took the Amulet of Kings from me, and placed it around his neck -- he is indeed of the Septim blood. But he reminded me that Mankar Camoran's death will not halt the Oblivion crisis. Mehrunes Dagon's invasion will continue until Martin lights the Dragonfires in the Temple of the One.
100	0

Notes

Not all Journal Entries may appear in your journal; which entries appear and which entries do not depends on the manner in which the quest is done.
Stages are not always in order of progress. This is usually the case with quests that have multiple possible outcomes or quests where certain tasks may be done in random order.
If an entry is marked as "Finishes Quest" it means the quest disappears from the Active Quest list, but you may still receive new entries for that quest.
On the PC, it is possible to use the console to advance through the quest by entering setstage quest stage. Where quest is the internal name of the quest, and stage is the number of the stage you wish to complete. It is not possible to un-complete (i.e. go back) quest stages. See SetStage for more information.