Oblivion:Sins of the Father

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Oblivion: Quests: Chorrol


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A thief wants you to recover an item stolen by the Jemane brothers' father. edit
The Jemane brothers may not like the truth...
The Jemane brothers may not like the truth...


[edit] Quick Walkthrough

  1. Talk to Fathis Ules
  2. Go to the Redguard Valley Cave
  3. Defeat the ogres and take the Honorblade of Chorrol
  4. Return the blade to Laythe Wavrick or Fathis Ules

[edit] Detailed Walkthrough

[edit] Talking to Fathis Ules

Approximately two days after helping the Jemane brothers in Legacy Lost you will be contacted by a thief named Fathis Ules, a Dark Elf. You need to be in Chorrol for the quest to be initiated.

Fathis explains that the Jemane brothers' father, Albert Jemane, once worked for him as a professional thief. He was a good employee for many years, but his greed overcame him and he disappeared with the last object he was told to steal. Fathis thinks that this object (he won't tell you what it is) has been taken by the ogres that until recently had overrun the farm. He shows you how to get to their cave.

[edit] Retaking the Blade

Go to the Redguard Valley Cave, which has been overtaken by Redguard Valley Ogres. You need to locate and kill the Ogre Chieftain; you can either kill or avoid the rest of the ogres in the cave. On the corpse of the Ogre Chieftain you will find the Honorblade of Chorrol (an ebony longsword that is a quest item and therefore zero weight). Your diary suggests to you that perhaps the blade should instead be returned to Castle Chorrol. You can decide which option to take:

  • Keep the sword for yourself (which prevents the quest from being finished).
  • Give the blade back to the people of Chorrol. Find Laythe Wavrick, Herald to the Countess of Chorrol in the castle. He thanks you profusely and gives you the Escutcheon of Chorrol, a very powerful shield, in return. However, this will turn Fathis Ules against you and you will then be unable to use him as a fence.
  • Return it to Fathis Ules. You will get a leveled reward in Gold. It is possible to immediately buy the sword back from him. In this way you can complete the quest and still have a very good weightless sword. However, at lower levels, you will have to pay him more than he gave you as a reward. This sword can never be enchanted by the player, and cannot be given to the Countess once it has been given to Fathis.

To completely finish the quest, you need to return to Weatherleah (by now restored to a proper farm) and talk to the brothers one last time. The brothers' reaction will depend upon what you did with the sword.

  • If you gave it back to the people, the brothers admit that their father was the original thief. To make amends for their father's actions, they will give you four grand soul gems (all filled with common souls). Their dispositions towards you increase by 20 points, and you gain one Fame point for completing the quest.
  • If you gave the sword to Fathis, the brothers refuse to believe that their father was a thief, and resent your accusations. Their dispositions towards you decrease by 30 points, and you gain one Infamy point for completing the quest.

[edit] Notes

  • Most of the time, the Countess wears the Honorblade of Chorrol so it cannot be stolen, but it can be lifted from her whilst she sleeps. Alternatively since she is essential, you can attack her until she falls unconscious. As she begins to wake up there is a small interval during which her pockets can be picked. This method is somewhat easier as she will never detect the attempt.

[edit] Bugs

  • If the Thieves Guild quest line has been completed to the point of obtaining Fathis Ules as a fence, he might be stuck in the Oak and Crosier in Chorrol. If this is the case, Sins of the Father might not be able to be initiated.
  • If you give the sword to Fathis Ules, when you talk to him again he will simply say 'Our business is done'. As a result, you will be unable to barter with him. Even if you are Master of the Thieves Guild (The Gray Fox) wearing the Gray Cowl of Nocturnal, this will still not change Fathis Ules' reaction towards you. The only way to avoid this is to keep the sword and not complete the quest until after you have fenced all that you need to advance in the Thieves Guild.

[edit] Journal Entries

Sins of the Father (MS16B)
Stage Finishes Quest Journal Entry
10 A Dunmer named Fathis Ules has told me that Albert Jemane, Reynald and Guilbert's father, stole a valuable item from the Thieves Guild many years ago. He's offered to pay me well to return this item to him in Chorrol. Fathis believes it's now hidden inside of Redguard Valley Cave, which he's marked on my map.
20 I've arrived at the entrance to Redguard Valley Cave. I should proceed inside.
50 I've retrieved the Honorblade of Chorrol from the Ogre Chieftan. This has to be the item Fathis was seeking. However, due to the nature of the item, I think someone at Castle Chorrol would be anxious to have this back. I need to decide whether to sell the weapon to Fathis, or return it to the Castle.
70 I've returned the sword to Laythe Wavrick, Herald to the Countess of Chorrol. In gratitude, he's rewarded me with the Escutcheon of Chorrol, an item only bestowed to the most honored of heroes. I should go speak to the Jemane brothers about what's happened.
80 I've given the sword I took from the Ogre Chieftan[sic] to Fathis, and he's paid me quite well in return. I should go speak to the Jemane brothers about what's happened.
100 0Yes Selling the Honorblade of Chorrol to Fathis has left me with no evidence of Albert Jemane's past, preventing me from convincing Guilbert that his father was once a notorious member of the Thieves Guild. (If the player sold the Honorblade of Chorrol to Fathis Ules) or

I've shown the reward given to me by Laythe Wavrick to Guilbert Jemane. He was saddened to hear that his father was actually a master thief, but was happy that the Honorblade was returned to Castle Chorrol where it belongs. He rewarded me with a personal keepsake as thanks for righting one of his family's past wrongs. (If the player returned the blade to Laythe Wavrick)
Notes
  • Not all Journal Entries may appear in your journal; which entries appear and which entries do not depends on the manner in which the quest is done.
  • Stages are not always in order of progress. This is usually the case with quests that have multiple possible outcomes or quests where certain tasks may be done in random order.
  • If an entry is marked as "Finishes Quest" it means the quest disappears from the Active Quest list, but you may still receive new entries for that quest.
  • On the PC, it is possible to use the console to advance through the quest by entering setstage quest stage. Where quest is the internal name of the quest, and stage is the number of the stage you wish to complete. It is not possible to un-complete (i.e. go back) quest stages. See SetStage for more information.


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