Oblivion talk:Amusei

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This page is rather sparse, considering Amusei's variable career during that Thieves Guild quests.

I've listed his initial location, since he moves around rather a lot, when you progress through the Thieves Guild. -- JustTheBast 13:34, 10 March 2007 (EST)

[edit] Thieves guild hideout

I'm on the last quest and i still haven't heard of a thieves guild hideout, although i know that they get a guild hall later but i still haven't got there, just wanted to know where amusei is when hes not doing delivering quests. and did u list his initial location? i didn't read anything, like is he anywhere to be found before finding the thieves guild? or does the game simply add him during the quest. --Piercethetruth 05:26, 12 November 2007 (EST)

The House of Dareloth becomes the Thieves Guild Hideout, once you complete the quest line. IWon'tFightUndead 06:42, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Before finding the Thieves Guild he lives at the Waterfront. After you complete the first quest he'll move out(presumably to the Leyawiin Castle dungeon). His bed which is next to Puny Ancus' bed will also go missing. Once he joins the Thieves Guild(after Lost Hitories of Tamriel) he moves back to the Waterfront(with his bed). --85.154.20.118 07:14, 12 November 2007 (EST)

[edit] Always Sneaking About

Amusei has surprised me quite a few times. I'll be running down the fog-covered roads around the IC or Leyawiin, and he'll be sneaking his way to the next city. I also see him sneaking behind the door of the Leyawiin prison. Im not sure if theres some kind of glitch involved, as he is always sneaking to random places, but i have never once seen him at the hideout (which i use as my home base). Anyone else encounter him on the roads? Its pretty funny to come up to a shadowy figure and have my bow ready to strike, and then i recognize the figure's walk and realize its my old friend Amusei... ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.134.75.234 (talk • contribs).}

Yes, I've seen him sneaking in any number of unusual places as well, though most often, as you mention, stuck behind the door of the prison. I don't know if that's a bug that the UOP could fix, but it certainly would be nice if there's a way. --Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 12:23, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Lol I used the console to teleport to him and he was just sneaking on a road. I followed him and then all of a sudden he was mauled by a bear. Onlt then he got up and ran ^^. --Ruff Touch

[edit] Amusei's rank

Does Amusei have any rank in the Thieves Guild faction once he becomes a Thieves Guild member? Nifhelton 17:36, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

Yes.

• During Lost Histories, at stage 65, he's given the rank of Pickpocket.
• At the beginning of Taking Care of Lex, both stages 0 and 10 for some reason, he's upgraded to Footpad.
• At the beginning of Turning a Blind Eye, stage 10, he goes up to Bandit.
• At the end of the same quest, stage 100, he goes up to Prowler.
• At the beginning of Arrow of Extrication, stage 0, he's upgraded to Cat Burglar, then downgraded to Prowler again at stage 10.
• At the beginning of Boots of Springheel Jak, stage 0, he's skips back up to Shadowfoot...and bumped back down to Cat Burglar at stage 10. (The game is full of redundancies, where designers changed their minds and never got rid of older code.)
• Finally, at the beginning of The Ultimate Heist, stage 0, Amusei is bumped up to Master Thief and once again bumped back down a level to Shadowfoot at stage 10.

Those were all the references I found, but the Construction Set isn't always the easiest to work with, so it's possible that I've missed something somewhere. --Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 23:00, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

You missed one - at the very start of Turning a Blind Eye, stage 0, he goes up to Prowler and is then demoted to Bandit in stage 10, making for three changes during that quest. I'm not sure this is "older code" though - I'm sure there's a good reason; just not sure what it could be! –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 04:57, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

Just a punt in the dark here, but is it to ensure that he gives you the correct dialogue when you speak to him? He seems to be being bumped to more or less the same rank as the player, so if there is some specific dialogue you get when you talk to members of the guild you outrank, it could be to prevent that dialogue from appearing in the quests in which he is involved, or when he is used to contact the player. The key would be whether Methredhel's rank is adjusted in the same manner for when she contacts the player. --Gaebrial 03:55, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

You could be right. Methredhel's rank changes even more often though, so it's hard to be sure:

• May the Best Thief Win (stage 60) -> Pickpocket (if she hands in the diary)
• Untaxing the Poor (stage 0 AND 10) -> Pickpocket
• The Elven Maiden (stage 0 AND 10) -> Footpad
• Ahdarji's Heirloom (stage 0 AND 10) -> Bandit
• Misdirection (stage 0 AND 10) -> Bandit
• Lost Histories (stage 0 AND 10) -> Prowler
• Taking Care of Lex (stage 0) -> Shadowfoot
• Taking Care of Lex (stage 10) -> Cat Burglar
• Turning a Blind Eye (stage 0) -> Shadowfoot
• Turning a Blind Eye (stage 10) -> Cat Burglar
• Arrow of E (stage 0) -> Master Thief
• Arrow of E (stage 10) -> Shadowfoot
• Boots of SJ (stage 0 AND 10) -> Master Thief
• Ultimate Heist (stage 0) -> Master Thief

I've not checked for specific dialogue, but it's definitely an option. The other one may just be to give a boost in disposition. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 04:15, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

Should we publish these (perhaps in table format or something) on Amusei and Methredhel's pages? Would they really serve any purpose other than "oh, that's interesting"? --Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 11:03, 29 July 2008 (EDT)