Oblivion talk:Border Watch

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What is the relevance of the Elsweyr map on this page? Border Watch doesn't even appear on the map, and this it's not like you can visit Elsweyr in the game. (Even with the Borderless Oblivion mod, you can cut through, but there's nothing there, of course.) --TheRealLurlock 09:50, 23 August 2006 (EDT)

I agree that the map doesn't seem necessary. The text seems to pretty much provide all the relevant info, plus there is a link to the Elsweyr page where anyone who wants to see the map can. At the least, the map should be smaller, but I think it makes more sense to get rid of it. --Nephele 12:01, 23 August 2006 (EDT)

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Can someone actually get a image of Border Watch that actually is useful?--Most Honored Listener 18:21, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

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The Border Watch is two things. It is a small settlement, and a group of Khajiit soldiers. The settlement of Border Watch is located along the border of Elsweyr, the home of the Khajiit, and is just a few hundred feet away from the Green Road along the Lower Niben Bay. It has yet to be seen, though, why a group of Khajiit would be guarding the border against their own people. The most likely possibility is that they are Renrijra Krin operatives. It is known, however, that Count Marius Caro (Count of Leyawiin) has a hatred of Khajiit and Argonians, so it is entirely possible that the Border Watch soldiers are in the pocket of Count Caro. If you look at the Elsweyr map, it is located on the border just to the right of the city known as Rimmen.

This was the original description on this page, and after having spent altogether too much time trying to make sense out of this paragraph, I've decided to move it all here in the hope that someone else can explain it all.

I can't find any evidence of a group of Khajiit soldiers identified as the "Border Watch". The "BorderWatchFaction" is identified as "Border Watch Residents" with no suggestion that they're supposed to be soldiers. Every reference to Border Watch in the Oblivion.esm file is related to the town. Other than the name of the town, I'm not sure what suggests that the townspeople are guarding the border on behalf of Count Caro.

On the other hand, the mention of "Renrijra Krin" is somewhat mysterious. Ahzirr Traajijazeri is a book apparently introduced in Oblivion to describe the Renrijra Krin. S'razirr is a member of the Renrijra Krin, and there appears to be an incomplete quest related to Drels Theran and Talasma. That quest could well be why Marius and Alessia Caro are made out to be so xenophobic. So there seems to be some hidden story there, but I'm not sure why someone made the connection between the Renrijra Krin and Border Watch.

For now I'm just modifying the article to provide the basic, verifiable information about this town, instead of being forced to justify the presence of information that I don't understand. If someone else understands this better, feel free to update the article however seems appropriate. --Nephele^Talk 22:15, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

I simply felt as though the Oblivion map should be added and I assumed that the Elsweyr map was there for a rough approximation of a map thus replacing it I now see how there is lore involved.--Most Honored Listener 22:42, 26 July 2007 (EDT)