Oblivion talk:Buying a house in Skingrad

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Apparently there's another glitch with this quest. I've bought fourteen upgrades from Gunder, but he has no more in his merchandise list! So far, I've bought the balcony area, balcony upgrade, bedroom area, den area, dining area, display case upgrade, kitchen area, lower wall hangings, servant's quarters, sitting area, storage area, study area, upper hall area, and upper sitting area. What in the world am I missing? I've been able to hire Eyja, but I guess all she requires is the servant's quarters. Incidentially, I did have to respawn Shum gro-Yarug, since he had apparently died sometime before I was able to raise the money to buy. -- marbx

I have the same problem. My guess is this is because I have stolen the "Upper Wall Hangings" before from the Surilie Brothers and then discarded the paper somewhere. --83.86.87.39 16:31, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

Contents 1 Possible Bug/Glitch 2 ANOTHER glitch? 3 Possible bug? 4 Another Key 5 Can't buy the house 6 Can't find Shum gro-Yarug 7 Bad fun with Yarug.

[edit] Possible Bug/Glitch

First excuse my english. If you go to the basement of the house, on the right you find a wooden chest between two wodden boxes and a shelf. I used this chest to store my unenchantet weapons. I stored very much of them over time. If I now put new weapons in this chest and accidenticaly put any enchantet weapon or jewelry in the chest, it simply disappears. It is not in the chest.

May be this is a general container-problem. Is there a maximum of items that can be stored in a container? Or maybe there is a maximum of list-places for a container? I think this is a serious problem, if Items disappear from a container in a secure house (which I own).

Another Glitch/Bug I noticed in this house. In the kitchen-section are two red glas-shelfs (the one you can see what you put in). In one I put my empty Grand-Soul-Gems and also my empty Black-Soul-Gems. After I found a new empty Grand-Soul-Gem I opened the shelf, took the Grand-Soul-Gems already inside (to stack them in my inventory). Then I layed them back in the shelf, and suddenly the Black-Soul-Gems in the shelf disappeared. They were not falling out of the shelf, but simply disappeared ???? Since this time I never store anything of value in those glas-shelfs. Maybe others have seen the same problem so I added it here to be rechecked by the admins.

If other can check and verify one of this problems, they should be added to the Wiki. Thanks. --^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.173.147.145 (talk • contribs).}

The first problem sounds like a standard glitch that can occur with any container. If that is what you're describing, then the items haven't truly disappeared. Yes, they don't show up in the inventory list any more and it'll give you a heart attack the first time you notice it happening. But if you take everything out of the chest in one way or another, you'll find out that all the missing items are still there.

As for the second problem, I'm not sure what's happening there. I've never used display cases myself for storing items, so I don't have any experience with how they work or don't work. --Nephele 21:22, 5 March 2007 (EST)

[edit] ANOTHER glitch?

I don't know if I'm just failing to notice the upgrades I'm buying, but I bought the balcony and balcony upgrades, and nothing actually changed! Unless there's another balcony that I don't know about... anybody else had this? 62.6.161.178 23:12, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

I don't have an adddition, but a question. I am sorry if this is misplaced here, but I don't know where to ask my question about this. I want to delete this quest. I am allready far behond Martin's change into a stoned dragon and have two houses. One in Anvill and one in Cheydinhal. The Main line is closed and to keep myself busy I am still on the Mages Guild Quest.

I don't need a third house and besides that, this Quest is very old. That Orc is dead for such a long time that I don't need to respaw him by type player.placeatme 00028FB6 that I want to delete this Quest. Do anyone know the number / code of this Quest ? Mail me at RonaldBL@versatel.nl

Using the complete quest command will move the quest from active quests to the completed quests section. --Saruuk 18:09, 29 August 2007 (EDT)

Dear Saruuk !!! I am asking for the Quest NUMBER of this quest. Why can't you read ?

I am sorely tempted to simply delete that comment as it's so exceptionally rude. First you do the site the discourtesy of asking for a reply by email, as though you can't be bothered coming back here, then you insult a regular editor. The command you need is completequest HouseSkingrad. The polite thing to do now is apologise and say thank you. --Rpeh^Talk 10:35, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

Why is repeating what I have asked an insult ??? I really don't understand, so explain please.

If you had simply repeated your question I doubt anyone would have taken offense. However, adding "Why can't you read?" to the end of your comment is somewhat derogatory. Please remember that even if you intend for a comment to be joking, in a written medium such as the wiki there is no way for other people to know how you "said" the comment. Therefore, most people will assume that any comment should be taken literally.

Also, everyone who responds to questions here is doing so purely voluntarily; Saruuk could have just as easily ignored your question completely. Therefore seeming to berate him for the quality of his answer can be seen as less than appreciative of the effort that he made in trying to provide an answer. He didn't intentionally misread your question, he just focussed on the fact that you can't delete the quest; all that you can do is mark the quest as complete.

Finally, you're probably also just the victim of bad timing. There seems to have been a string lately of questions (by various contributors) that for various reasons have been irritating (for lack of a better word at the moment). Hopefully this pattern will pass, and we can all go back to being our usual cheery selves ;) --Nephele^Talk 18:53, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Possible bug?

Hello,

I bought everything Gunder was offering me related to this quest, but the items were only 14. I read they should have been 15, thus I can not finish the quest. The arrow is still pointing at Gunder, though. Buying everything from him didn't help.

Thanks.

There definitely are 15 so something strange has happened. If the one you're missing is the "Upper Wall Hangings", you're in luck. Sneak into the Surilie Brothers' house and there's a copy on a downstairs table. If not and you're on the PC, try using the console command setstage houseskingrad 30. If neither of those... you're going to have to reload an earlier save and try again. --Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 13:51, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

I think I stole that item before the quest was added, could this be the reason for this bug? What should I do with that item, in order to complete the quest? I stole it in the beginnig, so reloading the game now it's not an option, unfortunately.

Some more problems (not related to this quest, I suppose) are:
•The game quits silently in several occasions: by killing an enemy, loading a savegame, and sometime (very few times) just by idling.
•Sometime (now it happens quite often, though), Oblivion saves "properly" the game, but then I can not load it anymore, it stops at some point and there remains.
•During "Whom Gods Annoy" quest, I didn't finish immediately it, but instead I was lurking around doing other quests with the scamps following me. After a while, Oblivion could not save properly the game anymore, because the savegames where not fully written, crashing while saving. The strange thing is that the so written savegame had always a size of mod 256. I had to load a previous savegame in order to continue playing.

The game is patched to the 1.2.0214 version, it's original, and no other patches nor mods have been installed. UK version.

Thanks for everything.

That could well be the cause of the problem. I doubt there's anything you can do now although you could try putting it back and stealing it again... The other problems... stuff occurs, I'm afraid. I get random crashes too. I've just learned to live with it. Try disabling some of your mods. --Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 14:32, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

Based on the scripts, it seems to mainly just care whether the receipt is in your inventory after the quest to buy the house has been started. So I'd try retrieving the receipt from wherever you stashed it and carrying it around for a while. Try visiting Gunder and buying an arrow or something worthless from him or try visiting the Skingrad house, to see whether one of those triggers the script that checks your inventory. If you've lost the receipt, use the console to give yourself a new copy (player.additem B162F). --Nephele^Talk 16:59, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

Thanks, I'll try that, when I will found out what is wrong with Oblivion, now... It won't save anymore properly the game most of the time, and it's annoying... I can't play since I can't save... What could be the cause for this behaviour? If it's in the savegame itself, is there a way to fix it?

Here are the link for the savegame I'm still able to load, and one I can't load at all...

• http://www.mediafire.com/?79hdvumlljc
• http://www.mediafire.com/?cr99s2e93jm

Just rename the first as .ess to be able to load it. When I load the second savegame, the game won't crash but it keeps hunging there, doing nothing.

Thanks a lot.

[edit] Another Key

I have the 360 version and an NPC, possibly the most important mortal NPC, had to die. Loading a previous save or using the console is not a option. I really want a key.58.175.80.221 07:20, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

There is none. --Nephele^Talk 21:15, 26 April 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Can't buy the house

I can't buy the house because the arrow cycles through the west weald and then through the castle. I read on here that this means the guy I have to talk to is dead. What can I do. I have the PS3 version will he respawn or am I S.O.L.

I think you might be screwed, although you may be able to use the staff of worms 2 reanimate the guy and talk to him for 30 seconds, though im not 100% sure about that

I tried looking for his body its nowhere to be seen. Its freekin anoying. I am done with almost all the missions. I guess im just screwed I wont give up though. Thanks for the input.

[edit] Can't find Shum gro-Yarug

I am playing on the 360, and when I go to look for him, it shows his location as being near the back of the west weald inn. Is he dead?

[edit] Bad fun with Yarug.

Um I think I'm screwed, I went on a big killing spree (it was really fun) and I killed Shum gro-Yarug in the hall and the body disappeared... I dunno what to do. Am I really screwed?

Sorry to say, but if you kill everyone in a certain city, then it's your own risk if that involves someone you want something from later on. You can try reloading an earlier savegame. If you're on the PC you can try the console commands enable and resurrect with his RefID. --Timenn < talk > 08:02, 29 September 2008 (EDT)