Oblivion talk:Disease

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[edit] Effects of Diseases

I'm not exactly sure myself about long-term effects of diseases, but my impressions differ from those listed by Dieter.

I'm not sure that uncured diseases ever kill you. I think most just have the specified effects on your abilities, which will persist indefinitely (i.e., Brain Rot will cause a constant effect of Drain Strength 5; it doesn't get any worse over time). The one exception is vampirism, which does have a progression and gets worse over time.

Also, I think Cure Disease potions/spells do clean up all the various side-effects of diseases. You can still have attributes/skills listed in red after drinking a Cure Disease potion, but I think that's generally damage you incurred in some other way.

Has anyone else paid attention to these points? I think it would be really useful to figure these things out and have them summarized on this page. --Nephele 13:53, 24 July 2006 (EDT)

I'm not sure, but it may be possible that diseases which drain Endurance could be fatal if you catch several of them at once. (Enough to drain your Endurance to 0. Difficult since it starts at 30, meaning it would take at least three simultaneous diseases to bring you that low.) There's also several unique items which drain Endurance when worn, so that might be a factor. However, I don't think there's any other way to die of a disease, other than sun damage from vampirism. (And even then you're really dying from sun damage, not the disease itself.) --TheRealLurlock 15:45, 24 July 2006 (EDT)

Semantics. The super-sensitive skin "Sun Damage" is a symptom of the disease. I would say following that logic it is the disease that kills you. How many healthy people step outside and instantly get a sunburn that makes summer poolside burns look like a "healthy" tan? *L*

[edit] How do I avoid becoming a vampire?

I'm not sure my redguard/mage is immune to this type of disease.I'm kind of nervous about becoming a vampire.--ShakenMike 15:06, 21 February 2007 (EST)

Well, you're already 3/4 of the way there, Redguards, along with Altmer, Argonians, and Bosmer, are 75% resistant to disease. That means you are 75% less likely to become a vampire. Still, you should get yourself a Cure Disease spell from somewhere, just in case. If you catch the Porphyric Hemophilia disease (which you can only get from fighting vampires), you have 3 full days before it turns into a full-blown case of Vampirism, during which you can cast Cure Disease on yourself, or just visit any temple or shrine and it will be cured for you. --TheRealLurlock Talk 15:12, 21 February 2007 (EST)

Ok thanks and I'll do that then.--ShakenMike 22:05, 21 February 2007 (EST)

I'm not sure 75% is very good number but I only got it once but I got also got it cure as well.--ShakenMike 02:32, 22 February 2007 (EST)

75% is the best you can get. The other 6 races have 0%. The only way to get more is with spells or items. Of course, you could just become a vampire, do the quest to cure it, and then you'll never have to worry about it again. You can't get vampirism twice. (By that I mean full vampirism. You can still get Porphyric Hemophilia multiple times, at least before you get vampirism. Afterwards, you're immune to it.) --TheRealLurlock Talk 09:23, 22 February 2007 (EST) I do have two cure disease spells(I can't use it yet due to my Magicka)--ShakenMike 15:18, 22 February 2007 (EST)

[edit] How can I tell which disease I gotten up to now?

So far I gotten the disease three times and I'm not sure it was a vampire.I can't even use the highest level spell that is cure disease spell.--ShakenMike 00:53, 24 February 2007 (EST)

Go to the active effects spell page, hover the mouse over each of the spell effects, and it should tell you what spell/effect the effect came from. Praying at chapel alters cures all diseases. Th232 01:13, 24 February 2007 (EST)

Most of them are good effects.I did cure myself at church as well.--ShakenMike 02:15, 24 February 2007 (EST)

[edit] other sources

idk much, but ive gotten rockjoint fighting the beggars in the cities, so theres more to it. maybe some characters have diseases too?


[edit] Shivering?

Where can i find the shivering diseases?

[edit] Contracting Diseases as a vampire

The main page notes that it may be possible to catch diseases as a vampire (specifically, Astral Vapors). I'll confirm this bug, as I contracted (ironically enough) Porphyric Hemophilia as a 100% vampire.Xeagle51 17:50, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

If at the end of the "Mehrune's Razor" addon quest you eat the heart of Mehrune's Champion, you WILL contract Cannibal's Prion even if you are a vampire.

[edit] A bug with 100% magic resistance

I have a breton spellsword who found a mundane ring and now I can't catch diseases. It gives the notify message "You have contracted <insert disease>." But when I look for active effects, none show. I fought a pile of vampires, got infected like a dozen times (got the messages while fighting them) but I couldn't see any effects in the F3 screen. I slept 3 times and I didn't get the visions, I showed no active effects later and I never turned into a vampire. I say that this conclusively proves that 100% resist magic = 100% resist disease for all intents and purposes. Also, it seems like nearly every effect in the game counts as magic, even stuff you would expect to be poisons like spider paralyze.

I'm guessing that the diseases are applied like some sort of spell-like effect and they just fall off when they fail to successfully apply their effects.

I'm not sure whether this belongs in Magic Resistance or Disease as it is a bug that combines the two.

-jim


[edit] Beggars (maybe others) with diseases

Other than vampires, I just noticed that beggars (and possibly other townspeople) may have diseases. I was bored, and tried to frenzy Wretched Aia. I contracted the disease collywobbles. I think we should keep track of what diseases can be contracted by certain beggers (which may be difficult) or the beggars in general. I didn't edit the article, because I am not sure if Wretched Aia is the only one which can give you this disease (even though I'm pretty sure she isn't). CRACK-A-BACK 20:03, 21 July 2007 (EDT)

Each beggar carries one or two diseases; the specific disease is set in the construction set and is different for the various beggars. Without mods, beggars are the only NPCs with diseases. The Shivering Isles beggars also have diseases, as do Syl's prisoners. --NepheleTalk 20:11, 21 July 2007 (EDT)
Should it be noted who carries what? Or would that be a horrible waste of time and space? CRACK-A-BACK 20:36, 21 July 2007 (EDT)
It probably should be documented in various places (perhaps Disease, Beggars List and each NPC page). If you'd like to tackle it, that would be great. Or if you can't get access to all the information easily, I could add it to the Beggars List, and then you could take care of adding it to the other pages. --NepheleTalk 01:27, 22 July 2007 (EDT)

Alright, I guess I could add it to the diseases and specific beggar pages. I've been looking for something to do (although I can't do it now, I'd have to start tomorrow). Thanks! CRACK-A-BACK 02:04, 22 July 2007 (EDT)

I did it! The first thing I did on UESP that isn't extremely unimportant! I feel sow pwoud. :P CRACK-A-BACK 18:55, 22 July 2007 (EDT)
Thanks, CRACK-A-BACK! Nice work :) --NepheleTalk 19:21, 22 July 2007 (EDT)
You're welcome. But of course, it is nothing compared to what you have done for the site. CRACK-A-BACK 19:29, 22 July 2007 (EDT)

Is it possible to cast a Cure Disease spell on a beggar to, well, cure them? I guess I'll test it! Scxe

[edit] The reward for being kind

When it is said that you get diseases from beggars, is it from talking to them, walking past them, attacking them, what? I've given countless coins to beggars, and haven't caught their diseases.

You only catch their disease if they actually attack you- but beggars attacking you is rare since they have low confidence, so if you attack them they will usually flee rather than fight back. Casting a Rally spell should make them attack you back. Each attack from beggars such as Puny Ancus will have a chance of infecting you with 'Yellow tick' disease. Hope that helped you out Merco.--Willyhead 14:23, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

[edit] NPCs and Disease

I know NPCs can carry and spread disease through contact in combat and the player themself cannot. But what about NPC to NPC transmission?

I'm trying to make a zombie mod but one thing I found very quickly is that the zombies cannot seem to transmit their disease to NPCs, sure - the player but not NPCs. Can anyone else confirm that observation, that NPCs cannot spread diseases between one another?--85.62.18.3 15:51, 16 September 2007 (EDT)

Yes you're right, NPCs probably can't catch disease- take a look at this discussion for more info.--Willyhead 15:58, 16 September 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Double disease

is it possibly to get the same more then once at the same time? eg. contracting Yellow Tick twice and having Drain Strength 10pts, Drain Speed 20pts. --Marleysexton 11:09, 10 January 2008 (EST)

No, you can only contract multiple diseases if they're different to each other. I don't think it's possible for you to catch the same disease twice.--Willyhead 11:15, 10 January 2008 (EST)

[edit] Astral Vapors

Just how do I get rid of them?

I'm not good with mage stuff, and I was going to get more into it, except, sometime within my 100-some hours of play time I contracted Astral Vapors... which zaps my Magicka.

Anyone know?


Heh, I found out.

Dibella... not whichever is in Chedinhal.

I always get 'em mixed up.

[edit] Witbane

Witbane also has been noted being contracted by Vampirism infected characters (100% Resist Disease) from the Dog of a un-named bandit, neither using any sort of magical impliment capable of putting on Weakness to Disease.

I moved this from the article pending further verification. Just because Astral Vapors has been confirmed to have a bug doesn't mean that all the other diseases should now be declared bug-prone. In particular, the confirmation for Astral Vapors came from the UOP bug list. However, a complete search of that list shows no mention of Witbane anywhere, and no other mention of any diseases other than Astral Vapors that bypass disease resistance. Furthermore, the evidence provided for Witbane is less substantial than that provided for Astral Vapors. I think this information needs some additional verification before belonging in the main article. --NepheleTalk 23:06, 21 February 2008 (EST)

[edit] Can you be a vampire for the second time??

i was just wondering if you could be a vampire after you already cured it the first time as i wouldn't mind being one again! thanks. Manurulz1548 09:07, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

Yes, you can, but only by using the console which, unfortunately, is only available to PC players. If you are on Xbox, then you cannot become a vampire after being cured. If you are on PC, however, see here for more information. --HMSVictoryTalk 09:15, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for your help. Manurulz1548 09:26, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

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