Oblivion talk:Factions

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Contents 1 Levelled Items 2 Other Factions 3 Advancement 4 Expellation Glitch 5 One Faction or Many?

[edit] Levelled Items

I'm not really sure how Wiki works exactly. (The etiquette and what not) So forgive me if I'm going about this the wrong way, but I'm just curious about the fight with the grey prince. When I fought him he had both elven long sword and shield. When my friend fought him he had both dwarven sword and shield, and the writer of this section was in the middle. I'm curious if it changes depending on level, because I was a high level (round 16) when I fought him while my friend was lower. (round 8) Not that it makes a very big deal just don't want people thinking this site is inaccurate. -- Jenic

Yes indeed it depends on your level. A lot of the creatures you meet in dungeons etc and the items that they drop are based upon your character's level. Towards the 25+ area you will find bandits and maurauders wandering around with glass armour on - can make quite a tidy profit out of that ;) Also in the Oblivion gates you won't meet the really nasty bad guys (the daedric princes and fighters) until quite a high level. -- Jimbob0i0

Yes I noticed that change with normal animals and levels and such. Actually just today I was walking around and saw 4 people walking around in glass and deadric armour and I was like, "what in the..." But I was actually talking about the Grey Prince battle and that if it changes depending on level it probably shouldn't say "he has these weapons" since they change depending upon level.--Jenic 21:49, 30 March 2006 (EST)

The weapons mentioned are what he enters the game with; they can vary at a later date if the character's level changes before entering the arena. If you enter the arena at level 1, for example, his weaponry will never change from those in the article at any point. If you enter the arena at level 25, his weapons will be better, but again, they will not change after that point. --HMSVictory 05:58, 19 February 2008 (EST)

[edit] Other Factions

I'm thinking of tying this section in with the NPC sections that are going up gradually. Might be interesting to see who's related to who through factions in this way. Just a start, may do more later. Not sure about including some factions, like those with only one member, for example. Also in many cases, I don't know if there are plot-specific things that happen with certain factions, like people joining and being kicked out, changing sides, etc. But other people can make such corrections later if they want. --TheRealLurlock 19:41, 6 July 2006 (EDT)

Yeah, I'm sorry but, that just seems really pointless, and looks stupid and messy. I don't think its going to help everyone to know that the castle guards and beggars are in different groups. I mean, they are all red anyways, what kind of article are you going to make for them? The city of Anvil page provides all the info on that kind of stuff anyways. --Blamat 12:50, 7 August 2006 (EDT)

Alright, way late, but I made a compromise, and moved the other factions to their own page. Maybe I'll consider filling in more later if I run out of other stuff. It's far from complete, of course, but most people probably don't care, so it's not a high priority. --TheRealLurlock 23:24, 24 August 2006 (EDT)

[edit] Advancement

If anyone knows the specifics of advancement (i.e. after which quests you advance), I think that would be very relevant info to have on the Dark Brotherhood and the Fighters, Theives, and Mages Guild's pages. GuildKnight 22:32, 30 November 2006 (EST)

[edit] Expellation Glitch

I really don't know how to explain this, but I keep getting expelled from ALL the guilds I'm in for stealing when I didn't steal. It has happened twice, A bandit attacked my horse and I was expelled. Then I killed a scamp in an oblivion gate and I was expelled. I can't get expelled anymore, or it will be permanent.--Apps001 23:08, 12 January 2008 (EST)

You've probably inadvertently attacked your horse. When you buy a horse, the horse is placed in the same factions as you, so the game treats it as a fellow guildmember. --Gaebrial 05:31, 15 January 2008 (EST)

No one was nearby to see me.--Apps001 10:01, 18 January 2008 (EST)

It doesn't matter. See Mages Guild Suspension and Cast out of the Thieves Guild but basically you can be kicked out even if nobody saw you do the deed. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 10:15, 18 January 2008 (EST)

[edit] One Faction or Many?

Can you be in all five of the guilds ("major factions") simultaneously? Are there any factions (major or minor) which, upon joining, prohibit you from being in any other faction? -- Laisren 05:52, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Yes, you can be a member of every faction at the same time, without penalty. Unlike Morrowind, which involved both prohibition and disposition penalties. In fact, part of 100% completion is achieving the highest rank in every faction. --HMSVictory 05:55, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Thanks! This is key information (a frequently asked question from new players, from what I've seen), so I've added it to the article. -- Laisren 19:39, 19 February 2008 (EST)