Oblivion talk:Gogan

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[edit] Two Gogans!

As with a couple of other NPCs in the game, there are actually two Gogans in the Construction Set. We should probably include both sets of IDs in the article, but I'm not actually sure where to find all of that information. Could someone look into it? Thanks! –Eshe^talk 12:59, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

Yep, the two versions are easily distinguishable by one parameter: the first version wears clothing, the second wears guard armor. The second version is the one enabled during the last part of the Siren's Deception and the one that stays inside the farm forever. We would include the change of equipment in the inventory section, without specifically referring to the version change (that can be put as a note). To find the BaseID of an NPC, simply enlarge the section between 'EditorID' and 'Count'. For the RefID you have to find a cell where they can be found, enlarge the section between 'EditorID' and 'Type', and you're good to go! --SerCenKing ^Talk 14:10, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

Nice work, Serc! :D Anyway, here's, for inspiration, an example on anothert NPC, where the info is added as a note. Krusty 14:15, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

Aha! I knew how to do that at some point, but I couldn't find his RefID for the life of me. The change in inventory has already been noted in the article but I thought the other data should be included in the table (like on Lucien Lachance's page). Thanks guys! –Eshe^talk 14:21, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

No concerns there, go ahead! --SerCenKing ^Talk 15:03, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Incorrect description

the arcticle says that he lost his family heirloom, which is incorrect. the "wedding ring" he lost is really a fake, as dropped by one of the female gang members when she mentions how when she tried to sell the ring it turned out to be worthless. I think the description needs to be changed.

This is acually true, the whole thing about Gogan getting seduced was to lure someone to help him.

Since I wrote the article (twice), let me point a few things out. I'm aware that the wedding ring is a fake - and I'll agree that it should be included on the page. As to what actually happened, I'm not so sure. If the whole thing about Gogan getting seduced is a lie to lure the player into helping them, then Gogan did quite an interesting undercover-job losing the fake ring in the first place. First, he met them at the bar. Then, still undercover, he showed up at the cabin and took off his clothing, got ripped off and had to walk half-naked back to town. Quite an effort in order to unveil the truth about the sirens. And after you have completed the quest, his goodbye greeting (only spoken) is: "Do me a favor. Don’t say anything to the other guards that I fell for it, okay? Thanks." That's what led me (and a few others) to believe that his undercover job had failed, and that he actually ended up falling for the scam. So; I'll agree about the wedding ring - but other than that, I feel the page is as close to the truth as we can get. Krusty 13:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)