Oblivion talk:Gromm

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[edit] Gromm's hostility

If you miss that 20 seconds like me (didn't know about this), he'll occasionally be hostile even when you have 100% chameleon. You can use the console to change this disposition towards you (which is -100) to stop him from being hostile again.

[edit] Rampage

One time, when I was in Olav's, Gromm attacked for no reason one of the other NPCs. I can't recall who. He wasn't hostile to me at all, though. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.107.103.53 (talk • contribs).}

I messed up by letting Gromm see me, I just ran away untill I was far enough. When I needed to be in Olav's at another time, he attacked me. Olav and a town gaurd killed him though. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Korunox (talk • contribs).}

He never so me, so I don't think that's it. And like I said, he wasn't hostile to me, just...I think it was Alga, looking at the list of regulars. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.107.103.53 (talk • contribs).}

Are you sure it wasn't one of the Mythic Dawn agents that he attacked? --Gaebrial 06:06, 29 February 2008 (EST)

He's well-known for doing this. There's a common glitch where he can and will kill people in Olav's. The one he most commonly kills is Alval, which saves you some trouble during the Dark Brotherhood quest where you have to kill Alval. MAKE SURE to keep him alive and don't let him see you during his quest to have the hilarious benefits.

(moved from the article)

If Gromm does not die, he tends to get into fights with other NPCs for no appearant reason. The Fighters Guild member Bumph gra-Gash seems to be particularly hostile torwards him.

This is another version of the same story. I've moved it here because it needs investigating. Under what circumstances does he go wild? Who does he attack? Is it actually YOU he's attacking and the other characters come to your aid? It all needs a lot more work. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 11:02, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

• • In my case, it can't be the player that he's attacking, because he is always non-hostile before and after he sees these characters. Nifhelton 16:54, 7 June 2008 (EDT)
  • In mine, when i entered the tavern he stood up and bellowed "You don't belong here" to the other NPC's before attacking them, although he did not attack me. Maybe its something to do with him believing them to be trespassing, getting the ownership of the tavern confused. When he goes there does he become a 'permenant resident' or 'owner' of the place? Im not really sure how it works on that level.

[edit] Disappearing Corpse

Let's review the evidence:

• First, editors reported that Gromm was disappearing when he died.
• Second, his script (GrommScript) has a check that says if GetStage Dark03Accidents >= 100 and if GetDead == 1 then he is disabled. In other words, he disappears as soon as both of those conditions are met, no matter what the order.
• Third, I just tested in game. His body disappeared the instant he died, as he was in the middle of flying across the room. No, it didn't disappear the moment it hit the ground -- because it didn't even touch the ground first.

Hopefully, all of that is enough information to satisfy everyone and make it possible to remove this contentious verification needed tag? If not, could I suggest that it be discussed here on the talk page instead of provoking unnecessary and insulting reverts? --Nephele^Talk 17:47, 18 May 2008 (EDT)