Oblivion talk:Harrow

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[edit] Encumbrance

Going through NPC birthsigns I noticed Harrow's "Super Carry Ability". Which immediately made me wonder what would happen if you forced Harrow to carry so much equipment that he became frozen in place? It's obviously not something that would happen during normal gameplay, but if you used a bunch of feather/fortify strength spells/potions and loaded up on heavy equipment before showing up at Lake Arrius, you could dump more than 1600 pounds of stuff on Harrow. He should then be permanently stuck in the shrine antechamber. Would that then break the quest? Or just make it play out somewhat bizarrely? Any chance anybody has ever experimented with this? --Nephele^Talk 01:25, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

I just tried using the console to give myself 100 rings of burden and 100 full suits of daedric armor, putting my encumbrance above 30,000. After Harrow took my stuff, he walked along like he was carrying nothing. I used getav encumbrance to check him, he capped out at 1,287 regardless of what I put on myself, even if I used player.removeallitems and just had the rings of burden.

Interestingly, when I killed and looted him, ALL of my items I had more than one of were each split into two stacks: one with one item, one with the rest. If it was a piece of armor/clothing, the single item had the female icon and the rest used the male icon (I was playing a female character). This could be some internal mechanism for preventing overencumbrance. If so, you might be able to bypass it and encumber him if you had enough different items to reach 1300+ weight, but I don't think it likely considering he was at exactly his limit regardless of what I was carrying when he took everything.

• -Deathbane27 01:57, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

Hmmm... first a user sandbox, now spending your time investigating obscure game details... I think you have officially become wiki-addicted :) Welcome to the club! And thanks for satisfying my curiosity! --Nephele^Talk 02:21, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

[edit] pack mule

Just a thought but can i kill harrow, revive him using the staff of worms, and use him as a pack mule to carry all my stuff(he must be able to leave the cave and still have the harrow birthsign). --Umbacano 01:01 , 6 March 2008 (EST)

[edit] Harrow never takes my quest items that can't be dropped after doing said quest

Namely the Ring of the Vipereye. I'd do anything to permanently get rid of that thing, but I have the PS3 version and can't. Does Harrow only take quest items before you complete the quest you use them on?

As stated on the quest page, "Harrow will not take any quest items that you may have in your inventory." --Nephele^Talk 19:52, 28 April 2008 (EDT)