Oblivion talk:Lazare Milvan

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[edit] Spelling

It may seem like an issue of extreme pedantry, but is it really appropriate to refer to "judgement" as a "misspelling"? Granted, it isn't the preferred (or only?) U.S. spelling, but it's not actually a misspelling in English usage outside the U.S.; I realise that the game's dialogue is written in U.S. English (even the UK "regionalized(sic)" version <_<) but the current explanation is one of those minor niggles that's perhaps not as conducive as it could be... I agree that a "sic" tag is probably necessary to prevent future mis-corrections, but perhaps not under the explanation of it being a spelling mistake.

Anyway, just a thought, and I think that my point has been sufficiently laboured now! I'll leave it be as I'm failing to come up with any helpful alternatives myself, but if anyone feels they have a more amenable phrasing... --Cbh 17:00, 31 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Mysterious Bottle

(from the article)

• Upon entering his house, You will find a bottle of Surilie Brothers Wine stuck to the floor, on the rug near the fireplace. It is unable to be activated or grabbed. If made contact with another item, it may sink below the floor, pop out, or stick up. It is then able to be picked up.

We've had to remove this bottle-thing from the article before and I decided to investigate it. I have tried the bottle on all my saves (lvl 1,4,5,36 and 38) and I can pick up the bottle every time. No problems whatsoever. As I'm playing on the PS3, it would be a bit interesting to hear some other in-game experiences. Until we find a reason, or can determine WHY the bottle acts weird, I don't think it should be mentioned on the article. Krusty 10:30, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I can't vouch for that particular bottle, but I am aware of another item that behaves in a similar fashion. In Sinkhole Cave (near the IC), in the 'pit' in the first zone with the bedrolls and the fire, there are two carrots and an apple on the ground. While you can pick up the apple and one of the carrots without problem, the other carrot - which is underneath a stool - often exhibits the same behaviour as described above for the

bottle. In the case of the carrot, I think it might be caused by its proximity to the stool. I wonder if the bottle is interacting with the rug in a similar fashion. --Gaebrial 11:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

(I'm the one that added the note) I looked into it, and Lazare's floor is acually lower than what you stand on. There is an invisible floor slighty above what you see. If you stand in the house and move your camera so you're looking at your feet, You're hovering above the actual floor. I'm guessing the bottle was stuck between these layers. --74.5.177.164 13:10, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "Sir"

(Probably a dumb question but..) If Lazare thought he was sutch a good knight, calling himself "Sir" and dueling people, why wouldn't he want to join the knights of the nine?--Arch-Mage Matt 23:03, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Naratively speaking, the man is likely too arogant and self absorbed for any of the divines to accept him as their champion. On that same train of thought, Lazare himself would likely refuse to join a group of priestly or monkish knights who, ideally, devote their existence solely to the divines, rather than themselves. If he were in Cheydinhal, on the other hand, the Knights of the Thorn would likely accept him with open arms. Dlarsh^{(Talk,Contribs,E-mail)} 23:11, 12 October 2009 (UTC)