Oblivion talk:Melisi Daren

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[edit] Sera/Muthsera

I'm trying to confirm the statement:

Melisi seems to be one of the few Dunmer that refers to the player as "sera".

In vanilla Oblivion, any Dunmer NPC can say hello (in the "HELLO" dialogue category under conversation) using "What is it, sera?" or "What is it, muthsera?", if their disposition is between 30 and 70. All that's different with Melisi is that Battlehorn castle adds these lines to the "GREETING" category (under topics), and there is no disposition-dependence. I'm not sure what the technical difference is between a "GREETING" and a "HELLO" in the construction set, but it seems to me that the bottom line in either case is that it is a line of dialogue that the NPC will say. In which case, this statement, as currently worded, is not true. All Dunmer should refer to the player as sera/muthsera, just under more limited conditions than Melisi. Can anyone confirm in game that they've heard this greeting from other Dunmer? Or can anyone see any quirk that makes the other dialogue not get used? --Nephele^Talk 03:36, 19 October 2007 (EDT)

Question is - even if it were true that Melisi was unique in using this dialogue - um, who cares? Is it really significant enough that it should be mentioned on the page either way? (Incidentally, "sera" and "muthsera" are very common forms of address among Dunmer - nearly everyone in Morrowind uses them when greeting anybody they don't completely despise.) --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 10:10, 19 October 2007 (EDT)

The 'HELLO' category is only used for random conversations between NPCs, as far as I know, and not for conversations with the player. Therefore, if Melisi is the only NPC to have the 'sera' line in the 'GREETING' category (which controls what an NPC says when the player initiates dialogue with them), then she will be the only NPC to use that address to the player. --Gaebrial 09:25, 22 October 2007 (EDT)

Aren't the masculine/feminine forms "serjo"/"sera" respectively in Morrowind, and "muthsera" a variation of the feminine form?--Quill 18:59, 8 February 2008 (EST)

I don't think 'muthsera' is exclusively female. My male character in Morrowind was recently addressed as such by Ajira. --Gaebrial 03:28, 11 February 2008 (EST)

Then maybe that's the case I just inferred from my assumption (which may well be wrong) of "serjo"/"sera" being male/female forms of the same word, that "muthsera" was a variation. You wouldn't happen to know if "serjo" is ever used when referring to female characters? (By the way, there seems to be a lot of titles for addressing people in Morrowind, and some of them, like "sedura" and "kena", I've only found in books.)--Quill 09:30, 11 February 2008 (EST)