Oblivion talk:PS3

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As I have been introduced to Oblivion via the ps3 version (though I played Morrowind on my PC), I'm excited to see this article finally created. However, it seems there's not a lot to say, because the ps3 does not have much specific info that's not already on the xbox360 page.

I'd like to hear what editors with a better understanding of wiki structure think, but why not have a "consoles" article linked from the main page, with the differences common to both consoles from the PC described. This article in turn provides links to one specific article for each console. This seems more logical to me, and it also serves to keep the public one step further from the knowledge that the 360 is light-years ahead of my precious and unreproachable ps3 in offering downloadable Oblivion content.

Also, I'm really sure that someone HAS to have already made a suggestion of this nature, but I couldn't find it.

Also Also, I don't know much wiki terminology yet so forgive me for not using it here, I'm working on it. Livingdocument 01:38, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

I agree this makes a lot more sense. The PS3 page is empty, while the 360's full, and a lot of infos shared. I wont make the change though, as this is definitely something for an experienced user to give the go-ahead to first, as it involves major structural changes to the 360 page. -Lordsword 8 13:32, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

I agree the PS3 page needs to be filled in some more; anyone who is playing on the PS3 is welcome to flesh out the article. I'm not actually so sure, though, that merging with the Oblivion:Xbox 360 page makes sense, because most of that page does not apply to PS3 (Patches, Official Mods, Transferring Game Saves are all Xbox-specific; sections of, or perhaps even all of, Interface Differences, are also Xbox-specific). The only section that really seems to also apply to PS3 is "Missing PC Features", which could just be copied over to here. To me, that seems better than creating a "Consoles" page that contains only that one section, especially since I'd guess most readers would prefer to just to straight to page on their specific console than read through two pages to get the same info. That's my opinion, at least. --Nephele^Talk 15:49, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

My apologies for adding bad info that the paintbrush glitch was fixed on the PS3. I was wrong - the glitch is still there. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.92.162.116 (talk • contribs).}

I agree with Nephele that a whole new page called Consoles VS the PC could be made that would be able to filter both Xbox and PS3 pages down to what the actual unique differences are. I myself am a PS3 player of Oblivion and I wanted to know what other people think of my reformatting of the PS3 Page as it was pretty much a bunch of chicken scratch and now looks more like a wiki page.--Most Honored Listener 18:28, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Contents 1 Sources 2 Mods 3 Plug ins 4 DLC and Bethesda 5 fewer items and dialog 6 Save games for PS3

[edit] Sources

I'd really like to see more sources used for this article. I've already seen some edits that object to some of the contents, and reverts that claim testing has been done without any source information. --Ratwar 13:07, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

Make no mistake: the PlayStation 3 is utterly superior in graphics to the Xbox 360 from what has been shown.

What really set the PS3 apart from the 360 was its lighting and shadow effects. The first tech demo showed light absorption and subsurface refraction, highlighting how different surfaces react differently to lighting.-Gamepro staff--Most Honored Listener 13:39, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

just to let anybody know oblivion on ps3 will not let you play it unless you have 720i pixels or higher tv, which you cant get with the cables given with the ps3, so basically to some it up if your super dead broke but manage to get your hands on a ps3 like me you have to buy another seperate component cable and then have a tv which will support 720i and higher which fortunatley i dont have, so now i have a copy of the game a ps3 and a tv that doesnt play the game i'am just soo lucky p.s yes i cant afford a hd tv ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.74.41.212 (talk • contribs).}

No offense but this is where common sense fall in, Don't but a PS3 and and even have a TV less than 5 years old. Buying a new low quality TV that will at least support use of the PS3--Most Honored Listener 02:16, 4 July 2007 (EDT)

The above is totally untrue. I have a 32 inch tube tv. 480i, from over ten yeras ago. I play Oblivion from my ps3 on it all the time. There is no limitation whatsoever on oblivion or any other PS3 game, from running in 480i mode. It just looks like crap. The above claim that you must have 720 is fanboy FUD. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.112.220.223 (talk • contribs).}

[edit] Mods

I wish PS3 users could use the PC Mods.--Papito007 20:56, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

I think you can but you need to do some serious "Modding" to the PS3 and you would probably need to load the Unix/Linux OS--Most Honored Listener 21:22, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

Excuse me? did you misplace the comment?--Most Honored Listener 19:59, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Yes, with enough skill in C++ you could definitely make mods and plugins for the PS3 version of oblivion, maybe even make it possible to run on a system such as Ubuntu... But that would probably violate copyright laws... And the controls are very smooth on the Sixaxis, so I see no point in that. IHIMSELF 23:57, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Plug ins

I'm playing Oblivion on the PS3. Can I add plug ins to my game? If so how?--Papito007 15:42, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

currently the PS3 version doesn't have any plug-ins but Knights of the Nine which is pre-installed SI will be available (most likely on the PS store) this September it is not known when the other plug-ins will be out for the PS3 yet though.--Most Honored Listener 21:12, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

[edit] DLC and Bethesda

I was simply referring to what Bethesda said that SI will not be available for download only to be bought as the GOTY forcing PS3 users who already own the game to buy it again.--Most Honored Listener 21:30, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

I know, but right above the Shivering Isle comment there is another that says "the PS3 does not have any downloadable content," and just below there is another that says there is "no confirmation on whether or not downloadable content will ever be available for the PS3." There is no need to say it again. --Eshe 21:59, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

Ok for some reason I though that was referring to something else I guess I am just to upset at Bethesda for not letting the PS3 users actually just be able to download content.--Most Honored Listener 22:15, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

[edit] fewer items and dialog

I have at one point played Oblivion for all the systems and I had noticed that on the PS3 version there are some thing that the NPCs will not say. IE. go away ashborn when you are a vampire. and several potions do not exist in the PS3 version I would like to see proof of this not being true. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Obliv4PS3 (talk • contribs).}

Well, the phrase "be gone ashborn" doesn't exist in any version of Oblivion, so not hearing it while playing the PS3 version definitely does not make the PS3 unusual. The only phrase involving "ashborn" is "What do you want, ashborn?"

As for these potions that supposedely don't exist in the PS3 version, it's pretty hard for anyone to double check on that without more details on which potions you haven't seen. I'd say the burden of proof here really is on you here because every other indication is that the games are identical on the different platforms. And there is no logical reason why the developers would alter random details about the game before releasing it on PS3; it just increases their workload all around. --Nephele^Talk 17:42, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

First of all the phrase ashborn is what everyone and I mean everyone says to be while I am a vampire in the 360 version and I am starting to believe that maybe the potions were added by a plug-in but the vendor outside kvatch was selling them. I will have to double check the name. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Obliv4PS3 (talk • contribs).}

Then you'd better check what's wrong the 360 version of your game becase as I said the phrase "be gone ashborn" does not exist anywhere in the game. And the phrase "What do you want, ashborn" is a greeting used to greet Dunmer, not vampires (incidentally, only if the NPC's disposition is between 20 an 30). So if you're being called ashborn because your character is a vampire then your 360 version of the game is really messed up. --Nephele^Talk 18:48, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

I guess because I am a dunmer and the vamparism took my personality down to the point of people referring to me as ash born and ash born being easily associated with vampires with the ash and all I can see where I made this mistake. but are there any potion that would be added by a plug-in and be available in places other than the associated plug-in?

Just because YOU haven't seen something yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's part of the magic of random. Just because you haven't seen, say A Strong Potion of Absorption after 200 playing hours, doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't exist. --Saruuk 20:12, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

I quite relize that but this potion was VERY unique it had its own name which I can't remember what it was it was not like a strong potion or something but rather its own unique item with a combination of different effects. Further more I have played Oblivion for the PS3 for close to 1000 hours and haven't seen it once. yet in the first 5 hours of playing it for the 360 I have seen it countless times from loot to vendors. I --Most Honored Listener 20:35, 20 August 2007 (EDT)don't mean to be a sore thumb but these differences are making me wonder.

It's likely that the potions you found were from a mod or plug-in, if they are not simply potions you never found in the PS3 version. Thousands of people play the PS3 versions of the game, many of which have logged more hours than you, and this is the first I have ever heard of these purportedly "missing" items and NPC scripts. In any case, there isn't much use in reiterating your point if you do not produce at least the name of this potion you claim is missing from the PS3 version. I would advise you to take Nephele's advice and provide some real evidence that would support your claims. In fact, it would have been nice if you had done that in the first place, so this discussion might have been much shorter and less time-consuming. --Eshe 20:59, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Save games for PS3

The PS3's quality is great, and my whole household is addicted to it. We fight over it and therein lies a problem. I installed knights of the Nine expansion and I was hoping to move a save game from the ps3 to the PC so that it's possible for two to play at the same time (without loosing 30+ hours of quests and story development)

Did Bethesda not realize that copying files was so easy between PS3 and PC as to not thing of this? i was disappointed to see that it looks as though the files are entirely different, AND (naturally, even after being renamed to .ess) they could not be loaded by my PC's oblivion. corrected save game. Here are the files that the PS3 stores:

• PARAM.PFD: 32,768
• PARAM.SFO: 2,736
• ICON0.PNG: 69,188
• PIC1.PNG: 1,141,138
• SYS-DATA: 1,756,576
• 5 File(s) 3,002,406 bytes

The sys-data cannot be renamed to .ess to play on the PC.

Does anybody have any information for this? I'm a programmer and if I had data details I would gladly program a converter and make it public domain.

- Max maxrcannaday at hotmail dot com

Full details on the file format used by the PC and Xbox 360 versions of the game are provided at Tes4Mod:Save File Format. There's been a bit of discussion at Tes4Mod Talk:Save File Format#PS3 Save Files about the PS3 save file format. As I mentioned there, I strongly suspect that the save file format on the PS3 is fundamentally the same as that used by the other two platforms. But there might be a layer of security encryption (as on the Xbox), or it's possible that the .ess file has been split among two or three files on the PS3.

If you're willing to dig through the guts of the files, it should be possible to figure out from the info on Tes4Mod:Save File Format whether the PS3 file format is comparable to the standard save file format. If you need any extra info, just ask :) --Nephele^Talk 03:15, 31 August 2007 (EDT)

I would like to point out that the "Floating Paintbrushes" bug is still in the PS3 version of Oblivion, but that is only without the Shivering Isles Expansion Pack, which contains fixes for all of the bugs related to Paintbrushes (Floating Paintbrushes, Pendulum-like Paintbrush Jars). We are talking about Oblivion though, and with the original disc the glitches return, so this is technically irrelevant. I'm sorry if this looks awkward, I don't use wiki format very often, so please excuse (or correct, if you wish), any errors I have made. IHIMSELF 23:41, 13 May 2008 (EDT)