Oblivion talk:Rufio

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Pre-emptive killing[edit]

If the first murder that you commit is Rufio, does that affect the Dark Brotherhood questline? Also, if your first murder is Francois Motierre or Alval Uvani, what happens to the DB questline then? --Merco 11:08, 25 August 2007 (EDT)

Rufio doesn't spawn in the game until you begin the DB quests so you can't use him to start them. You can indeed kill Aval Uvani to be noticed by Lucien Lachance. Killing him before the quest begins doesn't matter - when you reach that stage, it automatically finishes and you move to the next dead drop. Killing Francois Motierre does get noticed by forces unknown, but I'm afraid I haven't found out what happens to the later quest. So there's a partial answer at least. --RpehTalk 11:45, 25 August 2007 (EDT)
Okay, one bit of research later, this is what happens if you kill Motierre to start the quest line. As soon as you get the quest, a box pops up saying "Francois Motierre has been killed. I must now return to the Sanctuary and report my failure to Vincent Valtieri." When you talk to VV after that, he tells you: "So Francois Motierre has been killed. He hired us, sacrificed his own mother's blood, and we could not even fulfill our end of the bargain.", then "By failing to fulfill this contract, you have brought shame upon us all. Leave me now, and contemplate your uselessness as a member of this family." Talking to him again moves the quest line on exactly as normal. So the final answer to your question is:
  • Rufio - can't be killed before time
  • Francois Motierre - can be used to start the Dark Brotherhood questline but will lose you a bonus later on
  • Alval Uvani - not a problem
--RpehTalk 12:22, 25 August 2007 (EDT)
Hey Rpeh, you say that you can't kill Rufio before time, but the article says this: "If the quest isn't active he will be found wandering around the bar upstairs.". Does that mean he is marked essential or should that be removed? Icko 17:47, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
He doesn't exist at all - the article was wrong. Thanks for pointing that out! –RpehTCE 00:04, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

Name[edit]

It's probably obvious, but Rufio could be a play on Roofie, the date-rape drug Rohypnol. This does tie in to an "accidental" death from a botched rape (cf Lenny in "Of Mice and Men"). I don't know whether this is worth posting on his actual page, since it's only a backstory clue. Catena 23:01, 7 February 2008 (GMT)

Personally, it seems like a pretty extreme stretch to claim that there's a connection between Rufio and Roofie. And for background information to be relevant, it needs to be clear that the developers intentionally planned on a connection. Otherwise it's just one of millions of coincidences that occur when hundreds of randomly-generated character names are compared to every other name and word used anywhere in modern culture. --NepheleTalk 21:22, 14 February 2008 (EST)
It's probably better that it's not clear, since Bethesda wouldn't want to be seen promoting it. I just though it fit and was humorous behind-the-scenes. In any event, it can't be in-character background in-game, since there isn't a chemical industry or even real chemistry in the gameworld. Catena 01:36, 4 March 2008 (GMT)
Lenny wasn't trying to rape anyone.74.65.142.202 16:47, 3 March 2009 (EST)

Alternative Take on Rufio's Statement[edit]

Not trying to troll or anything here, but there's another possible explanation for what Rufio says. I know the rape scene is the most likely, but it could also have been in a situation where they needed to hide, such as being pursued by an attacker, and she panicked, he hit her to knock her out, but the blow was too strong or whatnot. Is there anything in the game that explicitly states there was a rape? — Unsigned comment by 207.194.162.57 (talk) at 06:13 on 15 June 2008 (GMT)

There's nothing I can find anywhere in the Construction Set that clearly says this must have been rape. I think you're meant to assume that, but there's no reason I can see that it couldn't be one of several other things too. --Robin Hood (TalkE-mailContribs) 22:29, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

More Background Information[edit]

While strolling around GameFAQs I found the following information: "If you visit the Imperial Prison, ask to visit the prisoners. One crazed prisoner will tell you he was arrested for doing the Night Mother's Ritual. His daughter was killed by Rufio (the first person you kill in the Dark Brotherhood questline), and he wanted revenge. Seems like most questions are being answered now, huh?"[1] I haven't personally checked it myself, but maybe this information could be useful to anyone who wishes to edit this article?-99.229.138.112 00:54, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

Already mentioned above. Could have been rape, could have been murder. DaedryonTCE 00:55, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

Surgery? Seriously[edit]

Generally doctors don't go into hiding when a patient dies under the knife. And how does "I had not choice!" Fit in. Patients were tied down in this world, and they would have their fatigue drained paralyzed, or magically rendered unconscious in this one. Someone living in Talos Plaza can afford it.74.65.142.202 16:46, 3 March 2009 (EST)

Yeah, I've just deleted that. The rape theory is sensible given dialogue and other evidence. Surgery? No - that's pure speculation. –RpehTCE 17:18, 3 March 2009 (EST)

Glitch[edit]

"Occasionally, a glitch may happen when Rufio is killed. If he is attempting to run, and he is shot in the back with an arrow as he opens the door to his room (assuming it is closed), he will freeze in midair as he flies forward; interacting with his corpse will cause it to fall to the floor." Would it be alright to post this on the Oblivion:Glitches page under the Minor Glitches section? Felindre 20:26, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not specific to Rufio and most people never see it. Not worth mentioning. –RpehTCE 20:39, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Arcadia[edit]

Probably just me being dumb but can anyone give me any proof tha it was arcadia that wanted rufio dead? Does he say something if you set him free? Again probably just me being dumb. Thnx in advance Sheogorath-97 22:24, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Try reading Arcadia's Journal - that pretty much gives it away. -- Krusty 22:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

talk to rufio?[edit]

alright im just wondering what happens if you talk to rufio before you kill him? is there a quest you could do for him? like in fallout there is usually more than 1 way of doing a quest for somebody, i was wondering if anyone knew if this was one of those quests — Unsigned comment by 74.71.87.175 (talk) at 23:51 on 17 March 2010

He just acts afraid and runs away from you, then hides in a corner. See Claudius Arcadia, he and his house and his diary provides some backround on Rufio, specificly, he is not the innocent old man everyone thinks he is...--Arch-Mage MattTalk 23:56, 17 March 2010 (UTC)