Oblivion talk:Rufio

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Contents 1 Pre-emptive killing 2 Name 3 Alternative Take on Rufio's Statement 4 More Background Information

[edit] Pre-emptive killing

If the first murder that you commit is Rufio, does that affect the Dark Brotherhood questline? Also, if your first murder is Francois Motierre or Alval Uvani, what happens to the DB questline then? --Merco 11:08, 25 August 2007 (EDT)

Rufio doesn't spawn in the game until you begin the DB quests so you can't use him to start them. You can indeed kill Aval Uvani to be noticed by Lucien Lachance. Killing him before the quest begins doesn't matter - when you reach that stage, it automatically finishes and you move to the next dead drop. Killing Francois Motierre does get noticed by forces unknown, but I'm afraid I haven't found out what happens to the later quest. So there's a partial answer at least. --Rpeh^Talk 11:45, 25 August 2007 (EDT)

Okay, one bit of research later, this is what happens if you kill Motierre to start the quest line. As soon as you get the quest, a box pops up saying "Francois Motierre has been killed. I must now return to the Sanctuary and report my failure to Vincent Valtieri." When you talk to VV after that, he tells you: "So Francois Motierre has been killed. He hired us, sacrificed his own mother's blood, and we could not even fulfill our end of the bargain.", then "By failing to fulfill this contract, you have brought shame upon us all. Leave me now, and contemplate your uselessness as a member of this family." Talking to him again moves the quest line on exactly as normal. So the final answer to your question is:

• Rufio - can't be killed before time
• Francois Motierre - can be used to start the Dark Brotherhood questline but will lose you a bonus later on
• Alval Uvani - not a problem

--Rpeh^Talk 12:22, 25 August 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Name

It's probably obvious, but Rufio could be a play on Roofie, the date-rape drug Rohypnol. This does tie in to an "accidental" death from a botched rape (cf Lenny in "Of Mice and Men"). I don't know whether this is worth posting on his actual page, since it's only a backstory clue. Catena

Personally, it seems like a pretty extreme stretch to claim that there's a connection between Rufio and Roofie. And for background information to be relevant, it needs to be clear that the developers intentionally planned on a connection. Otherwise it's just one of millions of coincidences that occur when hundreds of randomly-generated character names are compared to every other name and word used anywhere in modern culture. --Nephele^Talk 21:22, 14 February 2008 (EST)

It's probably better that it's not clear, since Bethesda wouldn't want to be seen promoting it. I just though it fit and was humorous behind-the-scenes. In any event, it can't be in-character background in-game, since there isn't a chemical industry or even real chemistry in the gameworld. Catena

[edit] Alternative Take on Rufio's Statement

Not trying to troll or anything here, but there's another possible explanation for what Rufio says. I know the rape scene is the most likely, but it could also have been in a situation where they needed to hide, such as being pursued by an attacker, and she panicked, he hit her to knock her out, but the blow was too strong or whatnot. Is there anything in the game that explicitly states there was a rape? ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Catena (talk • contribs).}

There's nothing I can find anywhere in the Construction Set that clearly says this must have been rape. I think you're meant to assume that, but there's no reason I can see that it couldn't be one of several other things too. --Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 22:29, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] More Background Information

While strolling around GameFAQs I found the following information: "If you visit the Imperial Prison, ask to visit the prisoners. One crazed prisoner will tell you he was arrested for doing the Night Mother's Ritual. His daughter was killed by Rufio (the first person you kill in the Dark Brotherhood questline), and he wanted revenge. Seems like most questions are being answered now, huh?"[1] I haven't personally checked it myself, but maybe this information could be useful to anyone who wishes to edit this article?-99.229.138.112 00:54, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

Already mentioned above. Could have been rape, could have been murder. Daedryon^{•T•C•E•} 00:55, 21 August 2008 (EDT)