Oblivion talk:Skull of Corruption

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Contents 1 Reflection? 2 Reanimating and clones 3 Essential NPCs 4 Clones 5 Comment moved from main article 6 Who Should One Corrupt? 7 Quest item duplicate 8 I can't loot corrupted bodies! 9 Missing Name 10 Quick Guide to Cloning Yourself 11 Perma-Cloning Yourself 12 Save and reload 13 Another Way To Clone Yourself 14 Azura's Star 15 Clean-up Tag

[edit] Reflection?

What happens if Corruption is reflected? --66.23.133.52 18:47, 19 February 2007 (EST)

Interesting thought - I think it turns into the scene from Army of Darkness - Evil Dead III with Good Ash and Bad Ash - Good..bad...i'm the guy with the gun... :) --MacFodder 18:56, 19 February 2007 (EST)

It looks like the answer is incredibly boring: nothing. The corruption script will not work on anyone who possesses the Skull of Corruption. As part of its general sanity checks before corrupting someone (the same place where it checks that the target is a NPC and isn't already corrupted) it has a check to make sure that the target is not carrying the Skull of Corruption. So the developers seem to have closed that potential loophole/source of chaos. --Nephele 02:45, 22 February 2007 (EST)

Poop. Although, it should be possible to drop the SoC and let a hostile NPC pick it up and blast you, shouldn't it? I'll try to test this myself if I get the chance. --68.110.235.31 00:45, 25 February 2007 (EST)

Uhhh... yes it can! Just make a custom spell on target for spell reflection,cast it then use the skull.

[edit] Reanimating and clones

This staff provides much entertainment when combined with the Staff of Worms and Glarthir's dead body. Just equip Glathir's corpse with the equipment you'd like him to use and then re-animate his dead body, clone him with the Skull of Corruption and watch the ensuing battle. --McGrude 22:11, 22 July 2007 (EDT)

Ok this is strange. I've managed to duplicate a Greater Staff of Ruin using the above. Interestingly the staff shows the red hand indicating that it'll be a stolen item if I pick it up. Glarthir's body contained a Greater Staff of Ruin and had previously equipped it during previous re-animations. After re-animating Glarthir I cloned him. The re-animated Glarthir immediately invokes the Greater Staff of Ruin on his clone, thus destroying the clone's copy of the staff. The clone then drops the Greater Staff of Ruin on the floor and equips another weapon. After the fight the clone's Greater Staff of Ruin remained on the floor. I believe this was after the second or third battle I staged between the re-animated Glarthir and his clone. I wonder if it is possible to clone other objects in a similar manner. --McGrude 22:29, 22 July 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Essential NPCs

I used the staff on Countess Alessia Caro and a few guards came to the countess' aid and knocked the clone unconscious. So I'm guessing that the clone of an essential NPC is also essential, of course it still disappears in 30 secs, so it may/may not be significant enough to add. --Sundaroct131088 12:25, 21 August 2007 (EDT)

Well, while it may not be much, I believe that it could be added as a small note. It's worthwhile enough to mention.

[edit] Clones

When the Skull of Corruption is used on the player, does the clone use the player's classes's favourites? Translation: If you are a warrior, will it only use weapons, or if you are a mage etc. --Merco 12:07, 26 August 2007 (EDT)

It depends on what your equiped with when you were hit, if you were using fist's, then it will stay using fist. --Umbacano 08:14, 24 February 2008 (EST)

[edit] Comment moved from main article

(added by Colidien) I have used this staff on the PS3 version of oblivion and have not had the formentioned effect occur at all , on any enemy what so ever, all that happens is a red cloud ring surronds the target and then disapears, and nothing else happens ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 142.163.74.67 (talk • contribs).}

[edit] Who Should One Corrupt?

So I just got this baby, and so far I've wreaked a little havoc in the IC Market District (and revealed a Mythic Dawn agent in the process), but I'm wondering who the best NPCs are to corrupt. Anybody have favorites? Anyone who guarantees hilarity and/or lots of violence? IWon'tFightUndead 17:56, 19 September 2007 (EDT)

I haven't had a chance but I'd love to try it on mehrunes dagon in the last quest. He's affected by the wabbajack and sanguine rose so theres hopes for this dadreic staff too :D

By gofre

I'm afraid you can't corrupt Mehrunes Dagon, because he is classified as a creature. The script for the Skull of Corruption only works on humans. C_Garrison 16:57, 21 November 2007 (EST)

And lizards and cats. =) IWon'tFightUndead 01:51, 22 November 2007 (EST)

How about the Adoring Fan? --Debatra 03:46, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Quest item duplicate

Im wondering if its possible to drop the skull of corruption let someone else pick it up, use it on you, and the clone would have the same items?(including quest items)... im trying to get the bloodworm helm and necromancers amulet.

From the article: It is possible to drop the staff and attack an unarmed NPC. They will pick it up and use it against you, creating a clone of yourself which will attempt to kill you. Your clone may equip your best items (not taking into account enchantments), and seems to be not able to use your custom spells. If you are involved in/head of any factions, the clone will shout lines about that faction whilst fighting you. That said, I don't know if you can get those quest items from them. =) IWon'tFightUndead 21:05, 16 February 2008 (EST)

The clone will have duplicates of all of the target's equipment with only a few exceptions, namely the Skull of Corruption, Umbra, and Wabbajack. These three artifacts are explicitly removed from the clone's equipment. Im pretty sure that you can duplicate the Bloodworm helm then because its listed as artifact. --Umbacano 08:10, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Will the Sanguine Rose be duplicated? --Debatra 15:54, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

Yes, but the Oghma Infinium won't be; sorry to those who want easy level-ups.--Draenoch 11:04, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] I can't loot corrupted bodies!

After killing a corrupt clone, the body just vanishes. I can see the container icon but no matter how many times I bash the use key in the limited seconds before it dissappears, I can't get anything. I guess the article should be changed so it says that only the staff of ruin (Or any other weapon with a "Damage weapon" enchantment) can be duplicated. 60.50.76.61 04:39, 5 March 2008 (EST)

Save while the clone is falling, unpuase, repause, then reloa the save you made, and you can loot the clone. Infact, that should added. 77BeTa77 19:23, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

If you kill the clone with the Deadric Bashing effect on Mehrunes Razor then the corpse will not immediately vanish, and after saving/reloading you are able to loot it; however the body still vanishes after the spell is over. Killing my clone with Deadric Bashing also caused me to get expelled from the Mages and Thieves Guilds, but I was able to avoid that another time by saving/reloading before the expelled quest was added. --Shalley303 21:23, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Missing Name

If you do the trick above and loot a corrupted body, the corpse will have several "missing name" items with a large green square as an icon. These items can't be used or equiped, and if you try to drop them the game crashes.

[edit] Quick Guide to Cloning Yourself

Most experienced players will know how to do this, so this is more for anyone wanting to follow a quick guide to duplicate their items. This should only be used to duplicate items that cannot be duplicated with the scroll trick since that is much easier to accomplish. Items that cannot be duplicated with the scroll trick are any items with scripts attached to them, any quest item you cannot drop, any unique weapon, armor, or clothing item that you cannot obtain more than one copy of, and gold.

The trick to this is basically finding any sleeping NPC, but you don't want to do this in town and have to deal with guards running to aid the NPC. You can also do this with any unarmed NPC, but need to get them away from guards to make this hassle free. I picked Walker Camp for this guide because the thugs respawn, and take turns sleeping making it pretty easy to pull off any time you want to. This is a little better than using the Staff of Worms trick since you can duplicate your quest items and gold which you cannot put on a corpse.

1. Go to Walker Camp.
2. Wait until one of the two thugs goes to sleep (10am to 4pm, Midnight to 8am).
3. Kill the thug that isn't asleep.
4. Cast charm 100 on the other thug now attacking you, and then yield to them.
5. When they go back to sleep make sure that charm 100 is still active (recast if needed).
6. Pick-pocket all of their weapons. If you cannot steal their weapons you will have three chances to do so before the thug wakes up (because they have 100 disposition to you). Once the thug wakes up they will stand up, but will not equip their gear or attack you. While in sneak cast paralyze on them, and then do the same keystrokes for you would to yield. This will open their inventory and allow you to take all of their weapons. It works the same way as looting unconscious essential NPCs.
7. Drop the Skull of Corruption on the ground.
8. The thug will come out of paralysis, pick up the staff, and begin using it on you.
9. Kill your clone with the Deadric Bashing effect from Mehrunes Razor. You don't need to do it this way, but it makes it much easier to loot the corpse if they die from the instant death effect rather than from weapon damage.
10. Once your clone dies immediately save and reload your game. This is important because you may get kicked out of the Mages and Thieves Guilds if you don't save quickly enough.
11. Loot the corpse, wait for the clone to vanish, let the thug hit you with the staff again, and repeat.
12. Once the staff is used up the thug will come attack you with his fists. Charm, yield, and paralyze him to take the staff back, or just kill him.

I was able to kill five clones before the thug had to go to hand-to-hand combat. Be careful if you decide to do this as the thugs will run from you if you damage them too much. During one testing a thug ran all the way to Rugdumph's house, and as soon as he entered the house his inventory respawned which caused the staff to be lost.

This was all done on the 360 with all patches and mods applied, so it should work on the PS3 as well. Unfortunately on the PS3 you will not have Mehrunes Razor, making it more difficult to get the timing right for saving and reloading so that you can loot your corpse. --Shalley303 14:12, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Perma-Cloning Yourself

I am not sure if this belongs on this page or the glitches page, but you can make a permanent clone of yourself by following these steps:

1. Find a cave with a non-archer NPC at the beginning. I use Capstone Cave. IMPORTANT NOTE: You will not be able to return to this cave, or clone will disappear.
2. Kill all enemies in the cave except your NPC at the start. 100% Chameleon greatly helps here.
3. Move all dropped weapons into a storage container or dead bodies.
4. Drop the Skull near the NPC at the start. Save here in case something goes wrong.
5. Initiate combat with him and Disintegrate or disarm his weapon. If you disarm it, you must pick it up before he does.
6. He should now pick up the Skull and hit you with it.
7. Kill the NPC quickly.
8. Pick up and drop the Skull so it won't disappear.
9. Run out of the cave before the Corruption effect wears off. Your clone should follow you outside, he is now permanent. As long as you never return to the cave and you followed step 8, he will always be there.

If you want to kill your clone, you must use poison or you will get kicked out of all of your guilds. Your clone's body will last forever, making him the perfect minion to lead around with the Staff of Worms.

In order to loot your clone, you must save and reload in the same cell. All items except Umbra, the Oghma Infinium, Wabbajack and scrolls will be duplicated.

If you do not want to kill your clone, casting a custom Command Humanoid spell at him, fast-traveling away and walking back manually will permanently pacify him. --66.183.229.164 15:25, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

This seems too interesting to be true. Anyone care to try this out? --Darth NANAME 20:49, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Okay, I've tried this out, but I'm getting inconsistent results, namely my clone won't follow me out of the cave.

I posted this before I made this account, and I have always been able to pull it off. Are you sure that the Corruption effect hasn't worn off? And make sure the bandit is dead before you run out.--Xyntfos 16:04, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

I didn't actually discover this trick, I just put it up here. The original trick is found here if you are interested. This is also where people discovered how to get the Emporer's Robes and other things.--Xyntfos 17:34, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

The clone chases me, but he doesn't follow me out of the cave, and the moment I walk back in, he's standing at the door, pacified, wearing riduculous clothing (Red Silk Hood with the Deciever's Finery, neither of which I wear anymore), and he disappears right after. I'm going to try again with Command Humanoid before I announce it's debunk'd-ness.--Darth NANAME 01:56, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

What cave are you using? Sometimes the clone won't chase you out the cave, and I'm not sure why. But Capstone cave works 100% of the time. And make sure you wait 20 seconds (manually) before announcing it's a failure.--Xyntfos 14:39, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

I've finally got him out of the cave, and yes, he appears to be permenant. I used Barren Cave, and I'm using the GOTY PS3 version of Oblivion. Might be worth mentioning this glitch somewhere on the wiki here. --Darth NANAME 15:33, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Save and reload

For the duping glitch with the Skull of Corruption, I've noticed and heard other people say that you have to save and reload for the corrupted clone's body to become lootable. However, this is not mentioned in the article. Before I/someone else add/s it, I'd like to make sure it isn't just a few games being wierd. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.253.99.2 (talk • contribs).}

I believe that if you repeatedly tap the activate key as you are killing it, you can access the clone's inventory immediatly upon its death. Otherwise, you must save and reload.--Xyntfos 20:26, 30 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Another Way To Clone Yourself

This is also on youtube if you want to watch it first summon a creature give them reflect spell and use the staff of corruption you may need to do it more times if you gave them just 1 to 99 percent reflect spell

I don't see why not this wouldn't work, maybe I'll try to verify it. --Darth NANAME 20:50, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

I guess it helps if I read the beginning of the page first. It seems the Skull has a script on it to check if the target has the Skull. If so, then they won't get corrupted. The person in the video I guess must have a modded copy.--Darth NANAME 20:52, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

You could drop the skull before it hits the creature, then it might work. --Xyntfos 16:01, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

Possible, but I doubt it.--Darth NANAME 01:51, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Actually, I watched that video and that's exactly what he did. He summoned a zombie, paralyzed it so it wouldn't move and cast 100% reflect on it. He then backed up and fired. He went and dropped the skull before the spell hit, and it cloned him.--Xyntfos 17:52, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Azura's Star

Something odd I noticed, when Azura's Star is cloned, by emptying one, you also empty the other. So if you had two Stars with grand souls in them, using one Star will make the other empty as well. NIL 09:36, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

This problem can be solved by seperating them before you use it. If you put one in a container and use the other you can drop the one you used and use the second one. Afterwards pick the dropped one up.

[edit] Clean-up Tag

I've gone over this and done what I believe is a good clean-up based off of Rpeh's comment on what was wrong, but seeing as how I'm both new here and the only one who has edited this page since then, I think I need a second opinion before I just remove it. --Xyntfos 18:40, 12 July 2008 (EDT)