Oblivion talk:Sleeping and Eating

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One thing that breaks immersion in this game is the use of sleep to level. Since leveling is so easy, I recently leveled up by clearing ONE small dungeon, and since most sane players want to avoid leveling at this pace, sleep becomes a rare occurrence. I don't know about you, but after days or weeks of travel, exploration and battle with no sleep, I almost feel a psychological need to lay down and crash somewhere (even if my character NEVER needs sleep). Not sleeping prevents you from fully enjoying those big, lavishly furnished homes you purchased for a mint. Also, frequently you must wait until the next day to interact with an NPC and it seems strange to stand around and wait for 10 hours!

So, here are two suggestions on my part to deal with this. 1) Require that your character sleep a certain amount of hours to level, say, eight hours (so you can safely sleep up to 7 hours without leveling). 2) Introduce a third option to the sleep and wait commands: Meditation. Meditation can be used for all sorts of things, for instance, it could be required to meditate after learning a new spell or after increasing a skill level for them to take effect. Maybe you could meditate to remove an affliction (such as a stat decrease). Whatever the case, the meditation command should have a list of items for which you want to meditate on.

Maybe in the next version, they will even invent a new affliction called Sleep Deprivation!

[edit] Sleeping doesn't always trigger leveling?

When I'm eligible to level, I notice that sometimes sleeping does not trigger a levelup. Sleeping in a guild bed always works, but sometimes sleeping at the waterfront shack house, or in some bedrolls doesn't always trigger a level up. Yes, I always sleep for 8 hours when I want to level. Whether or not this crosses over midnight doesn't seem to make a difference. Anyone else notice this? ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.14.104.198 (talk • contribs).}

Nope, I've never had that happen. The only times that I've not leveled upon sleeping (when the level-up icon had appeared), were when sleeping triggered some other event which therefore pre-empted the leveling: becoming a vampire, doing the quest Through A Nightmare, etc. I've also done a lot of crazy experiments involving leveling, so I've gone through the level-up dialogue at least a couple hundred times (at all times of day or night), always completely reliably. On the other hand, I very rarely sleep for 8 hours. I don't even pretend to sleep realistically: the only times I sleep are when I need to for leveling or quests, and most of the time I just sleep for 1 hour. But it seems unlikely that sleeping for 8 hours instead of 1 hour would make a difference... --Nephele^Talk 03:03, 24 August 2007 (EDT)