Oblivion talk:The Necromancer's Amulet

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Contents 1 Thank You 2 Blood Price 3 Odd Stats 4 copying 5 possible bug 6 Friendly Necromancer? 7 Necromancer's Amulet/ Helm 8 Quest Item ? 9 Bug 10 diolouge

[edit] Thank You

Thanks for the notice and the rework, Ratwar. Appreciate it.
Thanks again, Verin Sedai 23:02, 15 November 2006 (EST)

[edit] Blood Price

If you do this quest while the Thieves guild quest Taking Care of Lex is open in your journal, you will be considered to be killing mages while theiving, and have to pay 1000 gold bounty per person killed.

I've moved this comment here for two reasons. First, from the construction set the only Thieves Guild quest that might conflict is Misdirection. If Caranya is killed while Misdirection is between stages 15 and 60, you will get a blood price. But I can't see any link to Taking Care of Lex. Second, I think comments about Blood Prices belong on the Thieves Guild quest page: if we're going to start documenting this, there are lists of 20+ people who are related to each TG quest. It makes much more sense to me to list them all on the TG quest page than to put snippets on each of 20 other pages (and if we were to start doing this consistently, readers would know to check each TG quest to know what possible blood price conflicts there are). --Nephele 02:16, 31 January 2007 (EST)

Just a note, when i did this quest in the mages guild, i picked the mages off 1 at a time, when i got to Caranya she didn't talk to me, when i talked to her it was like when we were back at the mages guild, i could talk about everything, but then when i exited the talk screen, she bacame hostile and attacked, just a heads up, i dont no if this happened to anyone else.

[edit] Odd Stats

I used the quest item glitch to get the stats from the amulet. My magic was at 250 so it should've gone up to 380, but it went up to 408. Also, when I read the Path of Spirit portion of the Oghma Infinium it gave me an extra 20 points. My intelligence was maxed before I did all this so does anyone know why these boosts happened? 68.166.67.100 04:58, 8 December 2007 (EST)

The amulet boosts both your magicka and your intelligence. So the highest level amulet will always increase your magicka by 158 points (130 from the Fortify Magicka effect; 28 from the +14 Fortify Intelligence effect). And the Path of Spirit also boosts your intelligence and therefore always causes a 20 point boost to your magicka. It doesn't matter whether or not your intelligence was already at 100. as stated at Intelligence: "Increasing your intelligence past 100 using Fortify effects will continue to increase your maximum Magicka accordingly (intelligence × 2)." --Nephele^Talk 02:51, 15 December 2007 (EST)

[edit] copying

when does Caranya's body reset? what i'm getting at is that it may be possible to use the risen flesh trick without the glitch if you kill her and complete the quest and then go back to ontus to use the trick. but only if you do it all before her body disappears.

I've tried it on my PS3 but in a different way. I left straight after the Necromancers amulet quest, beat the mages guild quest line, got the staff of Worms and re-animated her. I killed her and got the amulet. Not sure about risen flesh. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 170.185.128.19 (talk • contribs).

I just did this on the Xbox 360 using the Risen Flesh method above. I killed Caranya, looted the amulet, brought the amulet back to Arch-Mage Traven at the Arcane University, returned to Fort Ontus, cast Risen Flesh on Caranya's corpse, killed her (with the help of one of the mages that were fighting me), and looted the amulet again. It works well :) Chris uvic 18:51, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] possible bug

i attacked caranya through the gate but when she was unconscious i ran round the other side when i re-entered the room the marker was pointing at the floor where she was knocked out. after 10 mins of searching i found her inside a pillar. talking to her caused her to jump out of the pillar and stand in the middle of the room again. has this happend to anyone else? Lewbot1 17:23, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Friendly Necromancer?

I ran up to a Necromancer, and before he attacked me, I could talk to him. I bribed him, and then he went to kill his Necro friends. I know he's supposed to that after I bribed him, but why was I even able to bribe him? Is it a bug? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.144.249.144 (talk • contribs).

If your fame and/or personality is high (or other disposition-raising factors), it is possible that his disposition to you was raised automatically, in which you could talk and bribe him before he noticed you. Then he went and attacked his buddies cause you gave him all that gold. :) Vesna 16:22, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Necromancer's Amulet/ Helm

(moved: same question asked, and answered, at Oblivion:A Plot Revealed#Necromancer's_Amulet/_Helm

[edit] Quest Item ?

Is the Necromancer Amulet a Quest Item ? And If i use the Glitch to get a second Amulet after i finished the Quest, is this Amulet count as a Quest Item ?(Sry 4 bad english (i am german)) --87.165.71.93 15:41, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the Necromancer's Amulet is a quest item. Since that property counts for every instance of the amulet, it means that any copy of it is also a quest item. --Timenn-<talk> 13:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, Thank You very much. Is it worth to take another of the Amulet ? Since you can't get it out of your Inventory... I don't want to have a full Inventory with thousands of Quest Items. (Playing on Xbox360)--87.165.71.93 15:41, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

The question you ask is mostly subjective, so you have to decide for yourself. If you're a mage, the 130 magicka bonus might be useful. Wolok gro-Barok 15:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank You. Okay i'm gonna take one... (I'm no mage, but 130 magicka - wow.--87.165.71.93 16:10, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome, but I forgot to say that's only the case when you get the 25+ version. Below level 25, the magicka bonus will be lower. Wolok gro-Barok 16:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I am currently at level 20. But i make "Power-Leveling" what means, i make +5, +5, +1.--87.165.71.93 16:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

At level 20 you will get 110 magicka bonus. See the Necromancer's Amulet page for more information. Wolok gro-Barok 16:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Yup, i saw it, but thanks. On my Xbox 360 i got 270 Microsoft Points left (bought Fighter's Stronghold, Thieves Den, Vile Lair and Wizard's Tower). Now i would to buy one mini addon. Should i get Mehrunes Razor or Spell Tomes ? I Cant get both :(--87.165.71.93 16:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

This isn't the right place to ask this question. Actually, there is no right place for asking such subjective questions. You should refrain from asking these questions, as no-one can correctly answer them. My suggestion is you read both the plug-in pages and decide for yourself. Wolok gro-Barok 17:05, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay Thanks. I read the Pages 100 times but i can't decide... So maybe you can give me a hint ? Or you can delete this realy long question ^.^--87.165.71.93 17:18, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, you are wrong... it stops being a quest item after you give it back to Traven. I tested it on 360. It weighs .4 lbs (or whatever measurement they use in Oblivion) 68.113.150.31 21:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure? The Amulet (and its copies) are quest items, and it seems doubtful that the script to disable the Amulet would also remove its essential-ness. --Darth NANAME 22:50, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bug

when looking down on her from above, there are two locked doors that you can pick instead of going all the way through the dungeon. however, the rest of the doors open from the other side, so you are stuck unless you do some complex acrobatics. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.92.67.66 (talk • contribs) on 26 August 2009.

One of the gates inside the room has a lever right next to it, so there's no need for acrobatics to get out...though you do have to go through the entire dungeon in order to do so, making the pickable gates much less useful. —Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 21:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] diolouge

Caranya doesn't just say that she'll kill you. she tries to get you to join her first. I don't know what exactly it is she says, but this should be added.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Arch-Mage Matt (talk • contribs) on 18:34, 13 October 2009.

The exact dialogue can be found on her page. And I agree. A small mention will do. ^Talk Wolok gro-Barok _{Contributions} 19:13, 13 October 2009 (UTC)