Oblivion talk:The Order of the Virtuous Blood (quest)

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I'm pretty sure you don't need to kill a vampire in order to be approached by the Order, but I don't know what triggers it otherwise. I triggered it when I loaded an older save game while in the Temple District at night (she approached me from behind and just started talking to me... gaaahh!). It could have something to do with fame rating (mine was at 33 for that save), or just random chance? -- Zoogie 10:07, 4 April 2006 (EDT)

that's funny, I thought it was almost directly tied to it. I had cleared a whole cave of vampires, fame 30, infamy 7, when as soon as I entered the Temple Distrct, she walked up to me.

I was approached when in the middle of the quest for entering the theives guild having killed no vampires yet.

I took the liberty of changing the first paragraph so it now states that fame=5 is the requirement. One justification for that is the description in the official game guide. Furthermore, I went through my old saved games (covering three different characters) and in all cases, they were able to start this quest once fame reached 5. Two of those characters had not yet killed any vampires at that point. Also, I removed the statement that you need to sleep in the Temple District -- my characters have always just been walking through the district, and have never slept there. However, I did also come across an exception to fame=5. One of my characters was first approached by Ralsa at fame=3. It happened to be shortly after buying the waterfront shack, but I was unable to reproduce events by going back and buying the shack again. So I don't know what happened differently for this character. -- Nephele 00:33, 31 May 2006 (EDT)

I've checked the CS script and you are right. The correct requirement is Fame 5 or greater. Had the character with fame 3 started the Canvas the Castle quest? I suspect he had, as there is an error in the quest script that Ralsa will approach you if you have started that quest (stage 5 of MS51) instead of starting this quest, but initially rejecting it (stage 5 of MS23). I have revised the article to reflect the correct start of the quest, as this will always work (the bug may not). -- Actreal 05:25, 31 May 2006 (EDT)

Thanks, Atreal, you hit the nail on the head! The character with Fame 3 had started the Canvas the Castle quest. The bug seems reproducible -- as long as you're willing to track down Ralsa yourself after you've started Canvas the Castle, i.e. she won't run up to you in the street until your Fame reaches 5. But if you start find Ralsa and start talking to her, she immediately goes into the the "You've come back! Have you reconsidered?" dialog that normally means she had approached you before but you had claimed to be too busy. --Nephele 12:31, 31 May 2006 (EDT)

I'm not sure if this should be added or not, but after doing the Information at a Price Mages Guild quest, I collected boatloads of vampire dust (I have 10 now). Roland does not appear to be buying them from me. I suspect it's because they're quest-related kills and not random kills? Not sure. -- montek 11:11, 20 Jul 2006 (EDT)

I think you're right about why he won't buy it, and yes, those details should probably be spelled out. It all goes back to the fact that there are two types of vampire dust in the game, but I don't know exactly where they come from. OK, just tracked down detailed info on this, at Oblivion Talk:Alchemy Effects#The Answer. I've created a new page at Oblivion:Vampire Dust to summarize the info, and I'll create links to it wherever seems appropriate. In the process, I deleted the info about "bought vampire dust": can anyone confirm whether it's even possible to buy vampire dust, whether it is ID'd as VampireDust or VampireDustMG13, and whether Roland will buy it? --Nephele 14:21, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

I found Seridur dead in the cave..seems he got killed by a skeleton or something... ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.228.99.136 (talk • contribs).}

Actually, there does seem to be a minor glitch with how Seridur is set up. Although he's a vampire, he is not part of the VampireFaction, which means none of the other inhabitants of Memorial Cave have any reason to like him, and probably will attack him on sight. --Nephele 13:39, 7 February 2007 (EST)

Yep. I ran into this bug, too. I peek around the corner into where Seridur is, fire an arrow to pull another vampire (trying to fight them one at a time), and duck back around to wake for the vampire I struck to come after me. Instead, I hear a bunch of shouting from where Seridur is, and after awhile the quest notifier pops up and tells me that I've killed Seridur. I swear I didn't even shoot anywhere near the guy:-) Somehow the act of shooting the other vampire disturbed a Nether Lich that was also in that room and it killed Seridur. And I was looking forward to the showdown scene, too... HuntingWabbits 02:22, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

This page mentions the book Immortal Blood being on the top shelf in the basement. I've checked all the books there and none have this name. I have seen other members reading however - could they have taken this skill book away?

Sometimes the other people in the HQ will read that particular book. The lizard is very prone to taking it off the shelf, and is known to take it home with him when he leaves the building. However, he will put it back in the right place eventually.

[edit] Random Keys

In the last room of the cave before you reach Seridur, there's a fenced-off area full of dead victims; the gate is locked, and on the little table next to it there's a key (with the unhelpful label "A Key"). You'd assume the key unlocks the gate, but no. Has anyone ever found what this key opens, or is it just a red herring? Wordmama 15:28, 17 February 2008 (EST)

Details on places are provided on the place pages, in this case at Memorial Cave. And as it states on that article, the Key that you find in the cave does not open anything. --Nephele^Talk 16:15, 17 February 2008 (EST)

[edit] Roland

Does anyone know where Roland lives after this quest is completed?--Imperial Scum 14:37, 30 May 2008 (EDT)

He sleeps (midnight to 8am) and eats (8am-10am) in his house and spend the rest of the day either wandering around Seridur's basement or reading books there. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 03:21, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

He has a house in the IC temple district. --Volanaro 03:32, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

Okay thanks.--Imperial Scum 16:26, 31 May 2008 (EDT)