Oblivion talk:The Unfortunate Shopkeeper

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There is another way to complete the quest. A cheaty one though. Take Ghost Ship of Anvil immediately after you got this one. Get inside the ship, hit the ghost (it will have no effect until you have silver or enchanted weapon) and get out immediately. The ghost will follow you outside and hit Varulae unconcious. Meanwhile all the gang you're expected to get at night in the store are here in docks and they will begin fight with the ghost. They have no chance of course. Just hide somewhere and wait until all are dead. Ghost gets back to the ship (not sure actually, did not see it). Now go to the Norbert Lelles. P.S. Valurae will be ok next day or so.

1 Intentional Misspelling
2 Timing
3 Killing the Thieves Outside
4 Getting rid of the bodies

[edit] Intentional Misspelling

This is the third time somebody has corrected the spelling of "Quality Burlaries" to "Quality Burglaries". I know the misspelling was done intentionally as a joke in reference to the "Quality Mercandise" sign out front, but is this joke worth the effort of repeatedly un-correcting it every time somebody sees the "error"? Or is there a better way to make it clear that the mistake is intentional? Just didn't want to go back and forth on this one forever. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 15:05, 7 March 2007 (EST)

I agree, it's not worth constantly changing this header if most people don't realize it's intentionally misspelled. I'd opt to just have it correctly spelled, unless someone can come up with something better. --Nephele 15:32, 7 March 2007 (EST)

You could always try the denotation (sic). Then maybe people will leave it alone. --Vilhazarog 15:40, 7 March 2007 (EST)

[edit] Timing

At dusk the group of three intruders will gather outside the shop. At precisely 10pm they will start sneaking (albeit rather blatantly) into the shop. So you can complete the quest a little before midnight. --Timski 13:58, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Killing the Thieves Outside

For some reason, as soon as I got the quest and talked to the Norbert, the thieves were outside as soon as i stepped out, approximately 11 AM. I decided to try killing them right there to see if it would count as a murder and it didn't and the quest was still completed. --Piercethetruth 00:50, 1 December 2007 (EST)

Verified on the 360 version - I went outside the shop after talking to Norbert Lelles and attacked the thieves. The townsfolk and a guard joined in on the attack against the thieves. I looked at my stats, no bounty. I talked to the guard & did not go to jail. Also, I tried persuasion on the thieves before attacking them, the disposition was zero and would not change. - RoadDog772

Thinking about it, this is probably because the three thieves belong solely to an evil faction. Given these two independent confirmations, I will remove the 'verification needed' tag. If somebody has evidence to the contrary (has got a bounty for attacking them outside), the note should be deleted completely. --Gaebrial 02:52, 30 January 2008 (EST)