Oblivion talk:Two Sides of the Coin

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[edit] Question

Is there anyway of doing this quest if you got jorundur killed before starting the quest? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gan ning (talk • contribs).

No. Good Luck. --Playjex 11:14, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

jounder died on me to R4ngewarlord 04:09, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

[edit] No Tyrellius

Using chamaleon, I picked the lock and had no problem from the jailor. Besides, after finding the treasure Tyrellius never showed up, and the quest was marked as finished (maybe because i went to the treasure location by fast travelling to a nearby location). Afterwards, I searched Tyrellius anywhere but I wasn't able to find him.

[edit] Digital Necrophilia

Another unfortunate drawback of the Xbox 360 is the inability to take screenshots. Like the one I'd so like to take now. Choosing to kill Arnora as initiation into the Dark Brotherhood, I dealt her the final blow and she sank to her knees near the fireplace with her back against the hearth. Stripping her of her belongings has left her looking like the Penthouse Pet of the Month.--OGRastamon 19:41, 19 November 2006 (EST)

[edit] Oddity

While trying to complete this quest, I served my jail time and was kicked out of the jail, as expected. What was not expected, however, was the fact that I still seem to be considered an inmate. If I try to talk to the prison guard near the door, he tells me he doesn't talk to inmates. All the other guards seem to behave normally (though I'm getting some really strange rumours as though I was on a Fighters' Guild quest), but when sneaking around them (or anyone else, for that matter), the cursor never turns bright, even when they're looking right at me. They can obviously see me, though, as they'll arrest me for committing crimes.--Robin Hood 23:34, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

Update: The strange problems seemed to go away once I asked to visit a prisoner, then left the area and came back.--Robin Hood 23:53, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Amulets ARE quest items

I just tried to drop both of the Amulets while in the quest and got the "Cannot drop Quest Items" message. This is on the PC version is that makes any difference. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RyanMcGinnis (talk • contribs).

Thanks for pointing that out. The amulets start off as quest items, but then are changed to non-quest items towards the end of the quest. I've tried to fix the article accordingly. --NepheleTalk 01:09, 20 November 2007 (EST)

[edit] Under attack

I have vampirism and proceeded to pickup up my confiscated items after getting released from prison. I was immediately attacked by the guard and it saved in this location. Now everytime I begin to play or load this game I am immediately under attack--any suggestions? I cannot talk to guards at all.

Yield to the guard (Hold block and activate the guard at the same time) and then serve your time or pay the fine. --Matthewest •T•C•E• 02:02, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Quest Items

It states that you lose your quest items when you get arrested. I have the Boots of Springheel Jak, Amulet of Kings and a couple of other items and they all disappear when I get arrested and break out of jail they are not in the evidence box, but when I sleep, serve my time and take my permanent skill point damage (luckily only Armorer Skill-1) everything is back in my inventory. So my question is: Does anyone know how to drop your quest items on the xbox? Waldo126 20:56, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

It won't show your quest items in your inventory until you've left the dungeon area when escaping. You do get them along with the rest of your junk. 65.93.166.55 00:57, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
Thanks! Waldo126 10:16, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Good Guy, Bad Guy

I just wanted to know, who's the lier or the bad person? Who's telling the truth, you know I just want to be the good guy killing the bad guy, but I think the girl is the bad person since she has a true amulet and a fake one, am I right? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.22.191.95 (talk • contribs).

Well, there's no way to know. The quest was made that way. Personally, I believe Jorundr, but... that may stem from my belief that a guy can't tell a lie to save his life. As for the girl having two amulets, she made a copy because she didn't want to lose something important to her (the amulet is a family heirloom, and it looks pretty snazzy). I can understand that. She also didn't know that Jorundr wanted her dead, so there's no way she could have gotten a copy solely because of that reason. Vesna 23:08, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
My take on it is that Arnora is the more evil of the two. Jorundr strikes me as a somewhat dim and weak willed guy who let himself be talked into thievery - I noticed he had a high responsibility score because he witnessed the minor theft I committed to get tossed in jail and alerted the guards, witnessing the theft also lowered his disposition. He claims that Arnora used the guards to get rid of him, this is in keeping with the style of her threats against the PC. Neither of them are nice people, but I am pretty sure that Jorundr's version of events is closer to the truth.

[edit] Anora's Key

If you try to short-cut the quest by pickpocketting Anora's key after you first talk to her (to get her amulet), the game won't let you open the chest with it. Pedro666 14:03, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

As stated in the article, the key only appears when anora is dead or she hands it to you. Its scripted. the key you have will open the front door.98.220.173.237 13:13, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Exploit

(Moved from the article)

Once you get arrested, you can punch (or use a weapon, if you hid one in the barreL) Jorundr and the guards will rush in and kill him, and you will not be attacked or recieve a bounty. You can then walk out of the cell when the door is open (do not open it yourself, even if it is unlocked) and leave with no consequences. Furthermore, after you walk out, you can attack any guards in the room and they will not retaliate, you will not recieve a bounty, and you will not be arrested. This allows you to raise your skills with no difficulty. Note that this will end the quest pre-maturely A suggestion on using this is to do it after the quest. Get yourself arrested again, and simply punch Jorundr. He will be killed by the guards and the same thing will happen. This way, you will have completed the quest, and you can also kill guards and loot their bodies, and also raise your skills.

I've moved this because, as it says, it ends the quest prematurely. In other words, it isn't relevant to this quest page. It's an interesting glitch but shouldn't be on the article. –Rpeh•T•C•E• 01:05, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Tyrellius' Permanent Body

In the 'Notes' section it says: "Tyrellius' body will permanently stay where you slay him." It also says that the UOP will fix this bug. Does anyone know if, for people that don't have the UOP installed, his body can be used as a safe place to stash your loot (like Glarthir's corpse after the Paranoia quest) without it or the body disappearing? --SerCenKing 07:12, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

Yes. Any permanent corpse is safe for storage. –Rpeh•T•C•E• 09:02, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

[edit] The Chest

Where exactly is the chest upon completing this quest?

My compass thingymabob is pointing me to the main gate, at all times. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.242.80.252 (talk • contribs) on 28 December 2008.

It's north of the north gate of Bruma. There's a grove of three trees and the rocks just by the southernmost tree conceal the chest. –Rpeh•T•C•E• 14:37, 31 December 2008 (EST)


[edit] Reanimating Arnora Bug

After the quest, I reanimated Arnora with Risen Flesh, and led her to Olav's Tap and Tack (why I was doing this, I don't know). When her time was up, I got the 'One of the characters needed to complete the quest has died' note, which isn't unusual. However, I received 1 Infamy point for doing this. I didn't receive a bounty, and the quest page states that it's impossible to earn any Infamy, so I have NO idea how I got the Infamy point. 68.84.91.231 22:57, 3 June 2009 (EDT)

My guess is that the game considered the spell to be an attack. (Gadianzero 23:11, 3 June 2009 (EDT))

[edit] When I try to serve my time it freezes!

Every time I try to serve my time in the prison cell with Jorunder the screen turns black and the game freezes. I am on the Xbox 360 if that helps. (Sliter 17:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC))

Do you have the latest patches installed? Dom 02:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Skill book rewards.

Having maxed out sneak (100) when I did this quest, I did NOT receive a sneak skill book. At least I don't think I did (I'm rather sure I got Marksman and Conjuration). Can anyone confirm this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.91.89.186 (talk • contribs) on 24 August 2009.

Skill books don't advance your skills past 100, that is the reason. --Timenn-<talk> 09:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I can confirm this. I recieved a Blade and Marksman skill book. "Battle of Sanere Tor" and "The Black Arrow, v 2" No skills of mine are maxed out so there does not seem like any logical reason for this.

[edit] Jorundr, world's wealthist prisoner

While in prison I pickpocketed Jorundr. Surprisingly, he had over 200 gold on him. Can anyone else confirm this?

[edit] Tyrellius missing

Moved from article:

  • If you decide to do it Jorundr's way, Tyrellius might be missing when you go to collect your reward. [verification needed — Needs in-game verification]

I was arrested... and released but my quest euipment isnt in my box... how do i find it or get it back?

[edit] Showing him the real amulent

When you show him the real amulent, will he take it, or can you keep it and finish the quest? Dom 19:38, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

No, he won't take any of the two amulet, then you can either keep it, sell it or throw it away--S'drassa 20:11, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Dom 02:23, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

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