Oblivion talk:Unicorn

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Contents 1 "Owned Horse" Status 2 Horse Armor 3 Reliability as a Horse 4 Umbra 5 Unicorn doesn't attack me 6 Respawn 7 any possable way 8 Question: 9 Command Creature Anyone? 10 Accidental Death 11 Respawning Unicorn 12 Infamy 13 The unicorn is dead.

[edit] "Owned Horse" Status

I recently bought the Horse Armor Upgrade and then aquired the Unicorn. It was not, however, added to my total number of "Horses Owned." Despite this, the Unicorn behaves like it would when owned. (i.e. follows fast travels ect.) I know it added to the total before I bought the Upgrade. Perhaps this little note should be included somewhere? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.57.60.14 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Horse Armor

Can unicorns be armoured with the downloadable armour pack? 70.49.204.73 11:23, 10 January 2008 (EST)

Nope - as it already says on the relevant page. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 11:38, 10 January 2008 (EST)

No. Go look at the horses page, you'll see some horses have "NA" for their armored health, meaning they can't get an armor. --Gez 11:39, 10 January 2008 (EST)

[edit] Reliability as a Horse

The Unicorn is far less reliable than you make out here. I have used it as my horse, and often upon arriving at a destination the unicorn will attack me immediately on arrival for no reason whatesoever, when I have never drawn a weapon, used a spell, etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.157.91.54 (talk • contribs).

There must be something that you're doing that is provoking the unicorn; even just having your fists out (i.e., being ready for hand to hand combat) counts as "having a weapon drawn". Or maybe the unicorn is going into attack mode to attack a nearby creature and you're just misinterpreting. What I do know is that one of my characters used the unicorn for almost the entire game, and was never randomly attacked (it helped that the character was a mage who relied exclusively on spells). --Nephele^Talk 00:43, 22 January 2008 (EST)

I had noted that the Unicorn did not attack me while I had the Helm of the Crusader equipped, whether I was holding a weapon or not and successfully fought off a bear with it without it attacking me afterwards. Then somethign strange happened. If I ever approach it form now one without the Helm equipped, it attacks me on sight as though I was holding a weapon, and will attack me if I draw a weapon even with the Helm equipped. There must be something at play here, either in the background or that I'm missing.

truthfully i am starting to believe that either my game is messed up or mabye even just running can make the unicorn go into attack mode because i walked up to him carefully to get him but then when i got off of him and ran off he came after me it doesnt make any sense i guess i will just have to look deeper into these subject. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.241.244.24 (talk • contribs) on 04:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC).

Did you have your weapon out? If you did, you might want to read the article again. --Elliot^(T-C) 04:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Umbra

Confirmed on the Xbox 360 version, the unicorn will not attack you while you wield Umbra. As long as Umbra is a 0 weight quest item, the unicorn will not attack you when wielding it.

I've deleted this comment from the article because I have confirmed the exact opposite: the Unicorn turned and attacked me the moment I pulled out Umbra, even when Umbra was a zero weight quest item. And this was on the Xbox 360 (not that the platform is likely to make any difference with a gameplay issue such as this). Furthermore, there is no reason why Umbra would be treated differently from every other weapon in the game. Even just using your fists will make the Unicorn attack you. One possible explanation is that the original editor had Umbra equipped (i.e., had selected as the current active weapon) but was not actually wielding it (i.e., had not pressed attack or "X" on the Xbox controller). In which case, that's what will happen with every other weapon. --Nephele^Talk 21:49, 6 February 2008 (EST)

[edit] Unicorn doesn't attack me

I just happened upon the unicorn while on my way to a nearby river to search for nirnroot. I defeated all the minotaurs and took the unicorn. I then came here to read up on the unicorn and saw how it is supposed to attack you. I'm not too worried as I saved just a few minutes before I encountered the unicorn, so the only thing I will lose is a few alchemical ingredients that I don't even really need seeing as I'm up to my ears in potions and I'm a master in alchemy. Anywho, the point of this entry is that when I read the horse would attack you if you drew a weapon, I drew my weapon in front of it and ran around in circles. It outright refused to attack me. I've even fast traveled with is and it still won't attack me if I pull a weapon. It will attack me only if I strike it. On another note, it actively defends me. I'm not sure about allies who pull weapons near it, but if an enemy NCP comes up I can fight the enemy alongside the unicorn. This obviously isn't normal, as everyone else is reporting the unicorn attacking them upon sight of a weapon. It should be noted that I am playing the the Game of the Year edition which includes two expansion packs, and may include the official patch as well, but I'm not sure about the patch. Any ideas from anyone?

Update: While the unicorn never would attack me, it would always wander off. That's not the part I didn't like about the creature though. For some reason whenever I fast traveled to anywhere but a city that put it in the stables the unicorn would not be there. Ultimately, I decided I wanted my good old paint horse back and loaded up the aforementioned saved game to just before I found the unicorn. I still would like some ideas on why people think the unicorn wouldn't attack me though.

I found the Unicorn just a bit ago. I too may go back to a previous save. I too drew a weapon directly in front of the unicorn, and it was not Umbra. It's just a regular Long Sword of Inferno. I killed a minotaur that was attacking my unicorn and we were right next to each other. I then put my sword away, walked up to it, looked at it, and got back on it. It never attacked me either.

Another relevant question would be "What happens if the unicorn dies and I am not on the quest in question?" --Alaston

I've been meaning to look into this a bit more. I don't believe the unicorn will always attack if you draw your sword - I think that's to do with the relatively high aggression. I imagine that if you have a high enough disposition with the unicorn it'll never attack. It's trickier to test than with NPCs though.

On the second point, you can kill the unicorn at any time and its horn stays in your inventory as a zero-weight quest item until you need it. I'm not sure what would happen if you killed it but didn't take the horn - I imagine the corpse would disappear after three days and you'd never be able to complete Hircine's quest. That needs testing too. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 04:22, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Rpeh, I think you're right. There's a thread I started on the boards about this very thing as well. Several users are reporting the same type of thing - the unicorn simply will not attack the character. In my case, I even hit it with a sword just now - and I wasn't hidden, chameleoned, invisible or anything else of the sort. I speculated in the thread that it might be personality related - if not character history related (fines perhaps, or infamy, or something else). My character has pretty much stayed out of trouble, never killed anyone, etc. Maybe one of those is a trigger. Perhaps if one is on the quest in question, the unicorn knows the player is there to kill it and thus responds accordingly, whereas if we're not on the quest he behaves normally. Maybe it's just the personality (I have 100+ with mods).

For whatever reason, I think it does bear some rooting around by someone who can see the game code, because we're getting a high frequency of stories that match the ones we're talking about here. --Alaston

Your personality is going to be a huge factor, as is your fame. Assuming it works the same for creatures as for NPCs, you can read the rules on this here and here. It just needs verification. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 07:34, 19 February 2008 (EST)

The unicorn attacking you is not tied to whether or not you are on Hircine's quest. I've definitely had the unicorn attack me long before I had started the quest. --Nephele^Talk 11:30, 19 February 2008 (EST)

My fame was 2 (maybe 1) at the time I found the unicorn. My infamy was 7. My personality is 100 naturally, however. I'm not carrying any fortifications to it, but then again it may not be needed if someone has 100 personality. Oh, I also have 100 luck, if that enters the math. --Alaston

I think I've found the reason. Along with some friend we carried out some experiments, and found that the Unicorn seems to

a) Not attack you if you have a high fame.

b) Not attack you if you spend a lot of time riding on it (Presumably it comes to trust you).

If you attack it, however, it will fight back, and seemingly never stop. - Game Lord^{Talk|Contribs} 14:37, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

Wow, this is awesome! Anyone up for a secondary conformation? I'm a nublet here, but I'll work on it myself. --Sugars —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.57.60.14 (talk • contribs).

That all seems to match up with what I've found. When I came across the Unicorn in my most recent game, I had a very low fame and it attacked me right away when I drew my weapon to kill the Minotaurs (I was not on the Hircine quest). However, whenever I did do the Hircine quests in other games, I always had a very high fame (you have to be at least level 17 by that point, and I'm working without the consol, so I'd completed all of the faction quests then), and the Unicorn never attacked me. It let me ride it over to the shrine and kill it. I'd say that's pretty verified. TexasWatermelon ^{Sit and chat by the TexasWatermelon Patch} 04:16, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Yup, the unicorn won't attack if you draw a weapon in front of it if your fame/personality are high enough and Infamy low enough as this determines Disposition. It's not scripted to attack if there's a weapon out; instead it has an Aggression of 50. If the player or an NPC has a weapon out it reduces their Disposition to other NPC's by 10. If Disposition is less than Aggression the NPC will attack. Having a weapon out will push the unicorn over this threshold for most players but not those with high fame/personality and low infamy. I will update the main page and clarify the part about the Helm of the Crusader. Yes, it can push the Disposition threshold so that the Unicorn will not attack but so will other artifacts and the player's own stats. Kivan 00:33, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

Are there any numbers about fame/personality that Mark whether I'll be attacked? I currently have a fame of 43 and infamy of 14. I'd like to know if I can get the Unicorn. Zirakseez 18:01, 16 November 2008 (EST)

It's easiest to just use an Invisibility Spell to get close to it, and then hop on. --Oblivion nerd 11:41, 14 December 2008 (EST)

[edit] Respawn

Does the unicorn respawn like other horses?--LordDagon 09:57, 9 April 2008 (EDT)

Nope. Once it's gone, it's gone. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 10:09, 9 April 2008 (EDT)

What about if you switch horses? I've been riding my unicorn for a while and when i switched back to Shadowmere, I couldn't find it anymore, i looked in the grove, i looked where i left it, and i don't find it. 9 May 2008

It'll be around somewhere. If you're on the PC you can use the console command player.moveto 0001EC59 to move to it. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 01:46, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

As far as I can tell, it tries to make its way back to the grove.

Actually, it doesn't. My Unicorn wanders off, like most do, and in this particular instance I lost it outside the Cheydinhal stables (the groom opened the gate). About a month later, I found her wandering the woodlands in Cheydinhal, in fact going in the opposite direction to the grove. I believe the further away you are from the grove, the less likely she is to return to it. 121.221.82.105 01:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] any possable way

is it in any way possable for me to keep the unicorn but get the horn( x box 360), because i like the unicorn and i wont to keep it but i wont to finish the quest to. please help —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.150.92.115 (talk • contribs).

I'm more or less sure that there isn't, sorry. You'd need the console for that sort of thing. - Game Lord^{Talk|Contribs} 14:28, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

What would you do, assuming you were on the PC? Spawn the horn item or advance the quest? Or maybe spawn a second unicorn? 12.206.59.238 17:14, 15 July 2008 (EDT)

Kill the unicorn, take the horn, then 'resurrect' the unicorn. 71.113.146.96 16:12, 26 August 2008 (EDT)

Command Creature Spells will calm the Unicorn for the duration of the spell. In addition, if you mount the Unicorn when the spell is active stay on until the spell wears off, then the Unicorn will be friendly once more when you dismount. Thus you can use this trick to calm & remount after defending yourself against any random creatures that attack you on your travels. Stu. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.251.62.27 (talk • contribs) on 22 December 2008.

So how do I get the unicorn horn without killing it on PC?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.74.239.2 (talk • contribs) on 12 May 2009.

player.additem 1EC5B 1. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 09:25, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Question:

Do the predators (i.e. wolves, timber wolves ect.) count as having drawn weapons? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drake3555 (talk • contribs).

No. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 01:10, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Yes. The Unicorn will attack anything that draws a weapon and makes her Disposition lower, and wolves and other animals are no exception. This is an excellent compromise to not having to fight-you jump off her and she'll kill it for you. 121.221.82.105 01:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Command Creature Anyone?

I'm thinking of getting the Unicorn but I'd like to be prepared first. And upon hearing that the Unicorn can be very hostile, I'd like to know if it's a good idea to use "command creature" spells on it incase of attack. Not only would I like to know if it would indeed stop the horse from attacking me or my allies, but I'd also like to know if it would drop the Horse's disposition towards me (as command spells do with non-hostile NPCs). My character is a master in Illusion, so I'd like to know the best way of calming the horse down (Calming spells?). Zirakseez 16:54, 18 November 2008 (EST)

Seeing you're a master of Illusion, you could get 100% Chameleon, sneak up to it, and hop on. As listed above, it begins to "trust" you the longer you have it.--Oblivion nerd 11:43, 14 December 2008 (EST)

[edit] Accidental Death

I ran into the grove before i started hircines quest, and the unicorn attacked me. i ran to bravil where the guards killed it. will this affect the quest?75.92.5.255 11:17, 6 December 2008 (EST)

As long as you retrieve the Unicorn Horn, then, no, there will be no effect on the quest, as already explained on the quest article. --Nephele^Talk 16:15, 6 December 2008 (EST)

[edit] Respawning Unicorn

I just deleted a comment about the unicorn respawning if it had been killed before starting Hircine's quest. I know for a fact that isn't true because I had once played with a mod that removed the unicorn's horn into a container and I wanted to see if I could get another: you can't. Plus, a simple check in the game's data shows that the unicorn has just one reference - in Harcane Grove - and that nothing else touches it at any point. In other words, no respawn. Dr Jones 03:42, 29 December 2008 (EST)

[edit] Infamy

In the article, it says The Unicorn will not attack you even if you have a weapon out if your Fame and/or Personality is high enough and Infamy low enough, as this increases the Unicorn's Disposition towards you. . Wouldn't a high infamy actually increase your disposition with the Unicorn since it has a responsibility of 0?

[edit] The unicorn is dead.

I wanted to use the unicorn as a mount, but, for some reason, I found him (?) dead. The guardians were still there and in a good condition. I reloaded a saved game several times, but to no avail. The thing is, this beast is tough. What could have killed him? 88.27.144.215 21:32, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Probably a bug, the console commands:

• prid 1EC59
• resurrect 1

Should work to bring it back if you're on the PCRandomTime 21:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)