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I added the vampire nightmares into the article. I noticed that it was lacking it. Vethrian 20:02, 8 April 2007 (EDT)

It would also appear that completing the Cure Vampirism quest may result in the the Count of Skingrad offering to make you a vampire. Anyone able to confirm this (I was already a vampire, and he said something along the lines of "What I would offer you you already have", or some such)? -- EndarethTalk 02:33, 21 April 2006 (EDT)

Why is Greywin a notable vampire? He's only mentioned in a book, he is not an NPC Lisan al Gaib 15:22, 18 January 2007 (EST)

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[edit] 3 day wait to become a vampire?

Hopefully I'm editing this right, but I'm getting a little confused about some of the information. Specifically, about the bit saying 3 days have to pass after catching polyphoric hemophilia before you can become a vampire. There probably should be a little more detail about this -- does this mean that resting is safe until your 3 days are up, and you won't become a stage 1 vampire? Or that you have 3 days to cure the disease before you'll become a vampire, no matter what?

I've always become a vampire the first time I rest after catching polyphoric hemophilia, one time mere hours after becoming infected, but I'm starting to think that it's just a glitch I'm having?

TheNightTerror 06:17, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

After you catch Polyphyric Hemophilia, it is safe to rest for 72 game hours. After that time, you will wake up having a "nightmare". You'll also notice that it says you've gained "Vampirism" which is a permanant effect unless you do the Cure for Vampirism quest. Hope this is descriptive enough. Ocylith 08:29, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
That's bizarre, because this time around I decided to go ahead and become a vampire just for fun. Since I was planning on it I know for a fact that I was healthy before getting the message that I'd been infected. The very first time I rested after seeing the message, probably no more than 20 hours, (I entered the vampire cave at dawn and left at dusk, then still had to find a place to rest) I had the vampire nightmare and became a vampire. It couldn't have even been 24 hours, let alone 72. TheNightTerror 17:04, 18 April 2008 (EDT)
Weird, although I think I read somewhere else that this happened to someone else. I'm afraid that I'm unable to help at all with this, because I've always had to wait 3 days.

--Ocylith 17:41, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Stages of Vampirism

"You advance through the stages of Vampirism during sleep or waiting. After 24 hours of waking activity (total of 24 hours, not counting sleep in-between,)". Is "not counting the sleep in-between" part supposed to mean that you can't advance waiting/sleeping for 24 hrs then waiting/sleeping again? Cause if it is, it's wrong and should be removed. I often do that when I need some extra power or just Strength to carry more items Lisan al Gaib 14:45, 12 January 2007 (EST)

Sounds like that phrase needs to be removed. --Nephele 16:37, 12 January 2007 (EST)

[edit] Vampires visiting you in sleep?

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You may simply receive a visit from a vampire while you sleep; you lose blood and gain an unpleasant infection.

Are you sure of this? It does not seem very likely actually, and personally, I've never contracted the disease while sleeping (and I've slept a lot). --MiSP 05:46, 22 April 2006 (EDT)

I'm also a tad sceptical of this option... -- EndarethTalk 08:16, 22 April 2006 (EDT)
I've heard this, but never experienced it. So far, I've only been infected by meleeing with a vampire. Quillan 11:55, 22 April 2006 (EDT)

It happened to me before. Eowiel 11:55, 25 April 2006 (EDT)

Confirming, happened to me yesterday when I tried to sleep in a bedroll deep in dungeons of Sancra Tor(sp?). You don't sleep really (I had a level pending, didn't level up), you just get a dialog saying you had a nightmare, then you become a vampire, no disease, no time to cure or visit a temple, simply "vampirism added", "vampiric abilities added" right after you click "ok". I knew of this discussion so I made a screenshot, if unbelievers want to see I can post it somewhere. Seems this thing is dependant on bed you pick, because I loaded the game two or three times, retrying with that bedroll and every time got infected again. (or maybe it's about this level? I'd just become level 10...) --Vook 02:46, 28 April 2006 (EDT)

Are you sure this isn't a case of having been infected some days earlier without realising it? That happened to my wife, she reloaded and checked to find that she had in fact contracted the disease a few days earlier and hadn't realised it. All you get is a brief message saying "You have been infected with a disease". -- EndarethTalk 02:59, 28 April 2006 (EDT)
You were right I'm afraid. I loaded that save and tried using "cure disease" prior to sleeping - and it prevented the effect. Likely that message and no visible signs of earlier contracting the disease (if you don't see the message, there are no hints) makes people believe they were bitten while sleeping.
That's wrong. If you go to the magic menu and click on the magic effects tab, you will se a Drain Fatigue effect or something like that. If you hover it, it will say "Porphyric Hemophilia", or whatever. --MiSP 18:45, 28 April 2006 (EDT)
true again, it was huddled somewhere on the long, long list of active effects, seems I missed it the first time I looked through them.--Vook 09:13, 29 April 2006 (EDT)
i Find that sleeping in the wilderness in a bandit camps near forts gets the disease mainly the ones near vampire areas must be that im either getting some other disease or just seeing things
I can confirm that this can happen. I had never fought a vampire before (so zero chance of an unnoticed infection), and one night in a hotel, I woke up to a message something like this: "You dream of a sleeping person, and a figure moves over the person, giving a bite on the neck. You see the face of the sleeping person and realize it is your face. You wake up screaming."
Should this be added to the article, or should we see if there's a potential trigger for this happening first? 72.200.100.219 23:09, 15 January 2008 (EST)
I'd really like to find out some explanation for this before adding it to the article. In particular, it's a safe bet that it has nothing to do with the bed that you just happened to be sleeping in. The message you describe is just the standard message that accompanies the first vampire nightmare. Therefore, there is no special significance to the message; it does not mean that the events in the dream supposedly happened to you while you were sleeping. Rather, given the standard progression of vampirism, it means that whatever triggered your vampirism happened three days earlier (or more, if you hadn't slept in a while).
In other words, so far what you have amounts to "under some unknown circumstance I caught vampirism without noticing it". Sorry, but in my opinion vague information like that really doesn't help other readers. --NepheleTalk 23:23, 15 January 2008 (EST)
Make sure you aren't in the dark brotherhood,because it might have had something to do with Vincente Valtieri coming to you a few days prior.There are a few quest involving vampires.--Puddle 17:10, 29 February 2008 (EST)
How do you know you didn't fight a vampire at some point in time, not all vampires have "Vampire" in their name, and sometimes the message dosn't appear that says you contracted PH, and if you do not look in your spell list it is likely you won't know you have it.

[edit] Can't become a Vampire again

Well, after i've completed allmost all the quests in the game, I wanted to become a Vapire again. I found some Vapires and got the disease. But after i've slept more than a week, I'm still not a vampire! I've been vampire once before,but that was early in the game, and i've finished the cure vapireism quest. Anyone know if its a bug preventing me or something ells?


I beleive that this is a known issue (Though I'm not sure if Bethesda considers it a bug, or if it is working as intended). Currently it is not possible to become a vampire after you are cured of it. Fushi 04:09, 24 April 2006 (PDT)

This is indeed the case, and working as intended. There's an internal flag (can't remember exact name), which begins the game as 0, which is normal mode, susceptible to vampirism. Contracting vampirism sets the flag to 1, 2, 3, etc. Curing it sets the flag to -1, making you immune to vampirism. -- EndarethTalk 03:09, 28 April 2006 (EDT)


Note: I found the above mentioned flag, it's 'pcvampire'. So to become a vampire again, simply 'set pcvampire to 1'. I did this after completing all quests in the game, and wanted to become a vampire again to access the vampire dungeon in the Kumiko Manor mod. I'm not sure what went wrong (probably the hood that is supplied for protection against the sun), but after using a cure vampirism potion a few of the vampire attributes remained, and not only once but several times each (once for each time I put on/took off the hood). Also, my character still looks all wrinkled up. Resetting my race using the showracemenu command does fix it, but it also resets all my minor skills, and removes all the permanent major skill increases I obtained through quests. This is probably exclusive to the Kumiko Manor vampire hood, but I'm not 100% sure.

[edit] Stages of Vampirism: No need to sleep

The information on "Stages of Vampirism" is INCORRECT. You DO NOT NEED TO SLEEP to advance in Vampirism. WAITING can make you advance.

The edit would have been too long, and I don't have the specific times for stages. Someone should edit it.

It's based on how long it has been since you've fed. But you need either to load something, or wait, to activate it. I just wait and it happens.

Mechanics wise, waiting (T key, by default) and Sleeping are the same, with the exception that sleeping will let you advance a level. However, fast travel, normal travel, standing around and entering/exiting buildings will not trigger a vampire level increase. You have to either Wait or Sleep. Fushi 04:15, 24 April, 2006 (PDT)

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[edit] Contracted Porphyric Hemophilia while a vampire?

I have been a vampire for a while, and ended up in some vampire fight, and got the message "You have contracted Porphyric Hemophilia". What's up with that? Unless I saw the wrong message and I caught something that has a similar spelling?

No reason it shouldn't be considered a stackable effect really. -- EndarethTalk 01:51, 8 May 2006 (EDT)

Either you saw the wrong message, or it was a bug. Vampirism gives you 100 % Resist Disease. --MiSP 10:14, 8 May 2006 (EDT)


Hello, my story: I had contracted Vampirism, slept to recieve the Vampirism (25) plus the rest of the vamp effects, went to a shrine to remove the "Drain Fatigue", fought a vamp and was given another contraction message, and the Active Effects page showed that the Drain Fatigue was reapplied (mouseover of "Porphtric Hemophelia (2)"). So, I contracted vampirism even though I already had it. I again went to a shrine and removed the Drain Fatigue again no problem. --Brendle 02:55, 24 July 2006 (EDT)

@MiSP: Au contraire, I got Vampirism from the DB quests, but I've, nevertheless, recieved a -10 Drain Fatigue due to "Porphtric Hemophelia" (sp?) after I've went through some vampire-infected caves. I chose to ingnore it, but now I'm curious how it could've happened. D: --Burunduk 23:09, 26 September 2006 (EDT)

Well, that makes two of us (I'm curious too). --MiSP 06:32, 29 September 2006 (EDT)

Confirmed. I contracted Porphyric Hemophilia during my quest for Mehrune's Razor despite being in the second stage of Vampirism. I suspect that it does not have the proper disease flag making the resistance useless. Now I'm on a tangent to try for Double Vampirism! :[ --OGRastamon 20:31, 22 November 2006 (EST)

if you look in active effects you'll see that vampirism REPLACES porphyric haemophilla, allowing you to become diseased again (disease immunity doesn't seem to work completely) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.154.124.81 (talkcontribs).

I kind of tested this out, it seems that the resist disease is only around 75%. If you take an Argonian into a vampire infested cave your only 25% likely to get the disease then other classes, the same thing if you are already a vampire. However I have not contracted it with an Argonian vampire, the only reason I can thik for this is the two values add up to a disease resistance of over 100%.161.57.229.103 02:47, 8 May 2008 (EDT)xBlink N Die

I love being an Argonian (75%) and sometimes play as a vamp (100%) (total 175% resistence) I often receive diseases though I always forget... Also it is "RESIST" not "Immunity" to disease... That might help! Drake3555 23:42, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Contracted Porphyric Hemophilia but not turning into a vampire?

I've got the bug but I can't become a vampire no matter how many times I sleep. It took me a while to get it as an Argonian but does the disease resistance actually interfere with the transformation? If I look in my active effects it shows fatigue drain due to Porphyric Hemophilia but resting for days on end has never made me a vampire. Anyone else run into this?

Me too!!!!!!! I have contracted Vampirisom 100 times and i wated,slept and fast traveld to pass the time but i havent become a vampire!!!!!!!!! I hade the game before my hard drive crashed 2 times. I got the game a week ago and i simpely can't be a vampire!!!!!!

If I am not mistaken, you must remain awake for some time before sleeping (3 days). These were the instructions that Vincent gave me when passing on the gift.--OGRastamon 20:33, 22 November 2006 (EST)

Ok I have a HUGE problem with vampirism... I can't get PH. I fight a vampire, a message pops up with me contracting PH, but when I look in my Active Effects, there's no Drain Fatigue effect. I've tried a dozen things and was even ready to use the console to be a vampire, but the console also seems to have a problem. After I set the pcvampire to 2 and player.av vampirism to 25, I get 50% vampire but what I don't get is the Hunters Insight. When I next feed on someone, I return to 25% vampirism, but can't advance anymore (I waited, slept, combined the two... no effect). Please, I'd appreciate any advice on how to fix this. 87.250.34.197 05:34, 26 December 2006 (EST)

If you're messing with console commands any way, you might want to try player.addspell VampDisease. That's the command used by all scripts to trigger vampirism, and it looks like you have to have that "spell" for the rest of the vampirism script to be executed. --Nephele 13:53, 11 January 2007 (EST)
Hmm dunno about that... If it works, great. However, if you're already messing with the console, I stronly recommend just using the "Turn me into a full vampire" stone in the testinghall. After most/all things failed for me (including the other stone that just gives you the disease... did nothing for me at the time [works now, after the update, though... I can be a vampire twice :P]), the Full Vamp stone worked like a charm Lisan al Gaib 16:15, 23 January 2007 (EST)
Apparently that spell doesn't exist. Sam324 19:59, 4 August 2007 (EDT)
Argonians can become vampires, I actually think they make the best vampires because they are the only race that actually gets 100% disease resistance(the 100% it says you get from being a vampire isnt right but adding the disease resistance of the vampire with that of the Argonian makes it above 100% making it work right). And you do not have to remain awake before you sleep, if you wait 3 days before you sleep your at the last stage of vampirism or 100%, if you stay awake for 2 days your at 75% and so on so fourth. And if you have the disease but can not become a vampire you probably got the disease before and cured it without knowing(praying at any alters, eating an ingredient or drinking a potion that cures disease, etc etc).161.57.229.103 18:48, 8 May 2008 (EDT)xBlink N Die

[edit] Argonian Vampires?

Can Argonians even get Porphyric Hemophilia? Because of there resist desease thing? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by W1n3r1 (talkcontribs).

Not through normal combat, but maybe through eating the Beating Heart. I can't test that right now but I've marked this as a Good Question instead. –RpehTCE 04:30, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
Why not? They only have 75% resist disease. --Gaebrial 09:46, 31 March 2008 (EDT)
Yes, they definitely can become vampires in the normal way - it's just 75% less likely per hit due to their disease resistance. So you'll need to let yourself get hit an average of 4x as much before it happens. Alternatively, there's also the Dark Brotherhood guy who offers to make you a vampire after doing a few quests. --TheRealLurlock Talk 09:52, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

Thanks, I dont really want to be a vampire because it is so hard to find people to feed off of in the day time…so i guess being an argonian is good for me and thanks argonian for the reply —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.219.197.73 (talkcontribs).

"If you are planning to become a vampire, one good race to choose is Dunmer, because the 75% Resist Fire will offset the vampire's weakness. However, in the same way, Argonian vampires have downsides, as their natural resistance to disease is rendered unnecessary by the vampiric resistance, which is also 100%." should be edited as Argonians, Redguards, Bosmer, and Altmer all have 75% resist disease. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.154.124.81 (talkcontribs).

Good point. I have taken out the comment about argonians and resist disease, as it isn't really a 'downside'. --Gaebrial 05:39, 10 April 2008 (EDT)
And besides that the 100% disease resistance you get from a vampire is not right anyhow you can still get diseases (don't know why) so those classes are a good idea, because their disease resistance adds up with the vampires, and its a lot easier to get rid of the weakness to fire then it is to get the 100% disease resistance (just wear the ring of flame and you will be at 25% resistance instead of 75% weakness).161.57.229.103 18:54, 8 May 2008 (EDT)xBlink N Die

By the way, Argonians have RESIST, as I just stated a few minutes ago in above article 100% resistance means it is much harder to get diseases not impossible Drake3555 23:49, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Hiding your condition

On patched PC version, being a vampire seems to be a hard way : even members of guilds the player has reached are scared by seeing him, guards attack him. Wearing the marvellous Nocturnal's Cowl has no influence ... the lower limit of the Nocturnal's Cowl or the upper one of vampiric capacities ?

  • It depends on how long ago (game time) you've fed. If you've fed in the past couple of days, NPCs will treat you normally. At around the border between two to three days, some NPCs will comment that you look ill or unwell. As long as you feed often, being a vampire is relatively easy, especially if you belong to guilds that give you plenty of access to sleeping people, i.e. the Mages Guild. Instead of trying to wear Nocturnal's Cowl to counter vampirism, try the Daedric artifact the Masque of Clavicus Vile - it boosts your personality by 20 points. -Annacecilia 02:55, 14 February 2008 (EST)

[edit] Clarification Re: Advantages

The author writes "nor can you associate with or avoid being attacked by vampire antagonists". Does this refer to antagonists with Vampirism or those who antagonize vampires? I'm not trying to nitpick. I find the difference important. As a vampire I am as yet uncertain how I will be viewed by vampire hunters. I do know how I am viewed by other vampires and it ain't pretty.--OGRastamon 20:47, 22 November 2006 (EST)

Other vampires just treat you the same. NPC Vampire Hunters don't really exist. TET 14:38, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

NPC Vampire Hunters do exist, but they'll treat you just like any PC. Without giving away any spoilers, you could talk to them in the light of day and convince them to kill other vampires.

That all depends on if you can get the NPC vampire hunters to talk to you. Sometimes they will act like other NPC characters and try to avoid you. 161.57.229.103 18:56, 8 May 2008 (EDT)xBlink N Die

[edit] Sleeping Coffin and Vampirism?

I noticed in the article is says that in Deepscorn Hollow, sleeping in the coffin once you purchase the bedroom area will turn you into a vampire. I tried this one time and it worked, but I found that I only turned into a vampire because I already had porphyric hemophilia. Once I drank a potion of cure disease and slept in the coffin nothing happened... I figured either the coffin thing isn't true or I'm doing something wrong, so any help here would be useful.

And while I'm at it, I've got another quick question. If I am a vampire and I cure it with the purgeblood salts in the pool thing, than is it like the vampire cure quest where you can't become a vampire again after catching porphyric hemophilia? or can you keep turning into a vampire and curing it as many times as I want. Im playing on the 360 by the way

In the construction set I don't see anything special about the "Sleeping Coffin". In particular it doesn't have a script or enchantment, which is how I would expect something like turn-into-a-vampire to be done. I haven't had a chance to test the addition to this page saying that the coffin will turn you into a vampire, but now that I've looked in the construction set I'm skeptical. Information from anyone who has tested this in game would be really helpful.
The pool of renewal vampire cure works the exact same way as the quest's potion. In particular, both set the variable "PCVampire" to -1, which I'm pretty sure is the internal setting that prevents you from ever becoming a vampire again (aha, yes, the notes earlier on this page confirm that). So vampirism is still a one-time only option. --Nephele 13:24, 11 January 2007 (EST)
I think you're having the same problem that other people have had where you didn't know you already had PH and you slept in the coffin, turning into a vampire. Sam324 11:15, 7 August 2007 (EDT)
I'm going to confirm this. I found that I accidentally had PH because I went to the Dark Brotherhood sanctum and slept on Vicente Valliteri's slab and awoke a vampire. So I called up the save before I slept, cast "cure disease" on myself and then slept on the slab and only slept. --Kragshot Feb 27 08
No the coffin will not turn you into a Vampire, it is just a rumor that someone started, probably because they had PH and didnt know it. I had been using the coffin for a while before I went and got infected on purpose so I could do the quest and get the ashes of Hindrail out of my inventory.161.57.229.103 02:36, 8 May 2008 (EDT)xBlink N Die

[edit] What am I doing Wrong?

I am playing as a dunmer and for some reason, whether I contract the disease or am bitten by the dark brotherhood member I CANNOT become a vampire. I would like to know if it is because dunmer already have red eyes (I know this makes me sound like a noob but I have seemed to have tried everything else) I also don't appear to have any immunity to disease and have never contracted it before or cured it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.177.132.140 (talkcontribs).

Firstly do you have any mods installed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jadrax (talkcontribs).
Mods could be the problem, its most certianly not because you are a dunmer. Here are a few other questions:
  • Have you messed around with your save game or CS variables, or used the in-game console at all. If you are playing on Xbox, then you have not.
  • Do you see the message "You have contracted Pyroforic Hemerofelia" at the top of the screen? If not, you actually never contracted the disease, most likely due to resist disease.
  • Have you waited three days after seeing the message about Pyroforic Hemerofellia before praying at an altar or wayshrine, curing diseases, etc?
  • This may sound obvious, but: have you slept (not waited) in a bed after waiting three days?
If you answered yes to the first question, or no to any of the last three, then the problem should be easy to fix. For furtre refrence: please mention the version and system of the game when asking for support (I am assuming you have the latest patch, you must download it from Xbox Live (free membership ok) or Bethesda's website (PC only). As for system, I have tried to cover problems on both.) --Dylnuge(talk · edits) 14:20, 23 January 2007 (EST)

[edit] Vampire Problem *Includes Spoiler*

Okay, so i join the dark brotherhood, get contracted with Phorific Hemophilia, and i waited (T-Key) for three days, Then slept, and i wouldn't change. I think, if you use a bed to sleep before the three days is up, as i did (Got kicked out of DB had to face Wrath Of Sithis) It won't take effect. I eventually got bored and got cured at the chapel. Spoiler: I got to the bit where i have been contacted by Lucien Lachance, and i've done this before so i know what happens next. Does anyone know if for that quest when you fight with Vincente you can get contracted with vampirism, 'coz i need to know whether to drag the fight out and make it more likely, or to just kill him instantly?

He is a vampire, so yes, you can contract Porphiric Hemophilia while fighting him. But if he doesen't give you the disease after about a minute or two while fighting him, your vampirism might be bugged :/. In that case I suggest doing what I did, open console, type coc testinghall, find the vampire testing room and click on the turn me into a full vampire stone. Oh one thing. Before you do that, make sure you get the latest patch if you don't have it (some problems with vampirism were fixed in the 1.01 version) Lisan al Gaib 08:02, 28 January 2007 (EST)

I can't get the patch, something to do with "File not found, another file was found with the same name but does not have the correct data." Don't worry I'm sure it'll be fine. If i play another character and use the same method to vampirism, what do i do to make it work? I've done it before but I'm unsure what to do.....

A friend of a friend had a simmilar problem ;)... Did you maybe install (ie. replaced Oblivion.exe with) a NoDVD crack or something simmilar? Cause if you have, the solution would be to just get that Oblivion.exe file back (if you made a backup, simply put it back, if not you can reinstall the game). After patching, you can replace the file again Lisan al Gaib 15:25, 29 January 2007 (EST)
It's possible he bought the Direct2Drive version, like I did. Direct2Drive.com has a version of the patch made for their...ahem, "edited," version of the Oblivion.ini file. Qubeheheheh 08:47, 17 June 2007 (EDT)

I believe that you must sleep in order to get vampiness fullDrake3555 23:57, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Funny Thing to Try

Not sure if this works or not but would be funny if it did. You know the poision apple? Well, after doing the cure for vampirisim quest, and if you don't want the cure potion, use the cure vampirisim potion on a vampire as you would a poision apple. (or try getting them to use it somehow not sure if potions and food work the same) And see if they turn into a human! Please post it if this worked or not if you try it. Pappasmurf 10:00, 2 February 2007 (EST)

Nope. There's a difference between potions and poisons. When you "use" a potion, it is used on you. When you "use" a poison, the computer asks you if you want to poison your weapon or not. Ie you can't poison yourself (except with a potion made from Poison Apple and/or Chokeberries, but that's a bug [or they thought it too be too potent]) and you can't use potions on others Lisan al Gaib 10:23, 2 February 2007 (EST)
True, but it's also important to notice that poison apple is not a poison, but an ingredient. This still makes curing a vampire NPC with the potion impossible, but, you know, just to make things clear. --84.2.150.211 08:43, 20 April 2007 (EDT)
What I think he's asking is if you can reverse pick-pocket the potion (I don't know if it's weightless) then have them drink it, though I suppose the only way to do this would be to attack them since otherwise the vampire wouldn't drink a potion (they'd eat food for food, not potions for food, right?). --Adoring Fan 17:17, 1 April 2008 (EDT)
I just tried to reverse pickpocket the potion and it dosn't work, at least it didnt for me, it wouldn't let me give the potion to the person.161.57.229.103 19:02, 8 May 2008 (EDT)xBlink N Die

[edit] Color Change

I moved the following commentary from the main page: --Nephele 16:26, 2 February 2007 (EST)

Here's an interesting tidbit; I had created a blue charactor (don't judge me... :P ) and had accidentally contracted vamirisim and my character turned pale flesh tone! Needless to say that looked kind of odd with my blue arms and torso and dismayed me more that a little. Therefore, as a complete side note, if you make a blue (or yellow or green... not sure if green is possible though...) charactor and contract vampirisim you will no longer be that unnatural color you grew to love. :'(
The precise effect is that your character's colour is reset to the default for that race. Additionally if you are female your face mesh if you do not load an older save game, will be replaced with the defaul MALE head appearance, which is why female vampires tend to look plain stupid. --85.62.18.8 13:12, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Vampire counts

I think Nephele and I may have used different methods to arrive at our vampire counts. I used the number of predominantly vampiric monster markers that always spawn a creature as the low number and added those that had a chance of not spawning to get the top number - even though any one of these might spawn a creature other than a vampire, as Nephele's note explains.

I think Nephele used the number of markers that are guaranteed to spawn and only spawn vampires for the low number, which is more accurate, I admit in retrospect. -- JustTheBast 12:55, 5 March 2007 (EST)

Yep, my low end was only counting guaranteed vampires, i.e., entries like LL1Vampire100, not just guaranteed creatures. I had started by adding in the LL2VampireLair100-type entries to the count, then realized that there are several non-vampire options in that list (3/6 chance vampires, 2/6 chance undead, 1/6 animal). If players are keeping track of vampires for whatever reason (collecting vampire dust?) and want to actually have the number of vampires in a cave, it seemed like including LL2VampireLair100 as a guaranteed vampire would be misleading. --Nephele 16:17, 5 March 2007 (EST)
I had counted the predominantly vampiric lists like LL2VampireLair100 as "Vampire, who may be replaced by undead or beast", but you are right; it is misleading, despite your footnote. I'll go and change the two counts accordingly. -- JustTheBast 16:33, 5 March 2007 (EST)

[edit] Help, I don't want to be a vampire

I got the add on, found the liar then got the purge blood salt. I got into both the fountain at the shrine and the pool where the salts were, but I am still a vampire. What am I missing?

Did you activate the column in the middle of the font of renewal (i.e., the pool of water next to where you collect purge blood salts)? What message did you get when you activated the column? ---Nephele 20:50, 10 March 2007 (EST)

[edit] Vampirism Cure Window

WARNING: If you do not normally sleep on a regular basis and usually simply use the "wait" option, you will become a vampire the FIRST time that you sleep after being infected. The game timer does not seem to work properly under these conditions. Instead, it counts all of that time that it's been since you last slept (probably your last level up) and applies Vampirism as if it's been the full 72 hours. This means that if you want to avoid becoming a vampire, that you need to cure yourself of disease BEFORE you attempt to sleep as the 72 hour "cure window" will be ignored by the game.

Can anyone confirm this information? In the scripting, I don't see why it would count the time since you last slept. The vampirism daycount timer doesn't start until you have the disease. Is there any chance that you just caught the disease at an earlier time and didn't realize it? --Nephele 14:06, 14 March 2007 (EDT) Yes that same thing happened to me I got the disease and waited for and hour and i had already become a vampire i was kind of confused when this happenend.--Oblivion

[edit] Eye Problem

Not really a problem, per se, but I am playing as an Argonian and when I became a vampire, my eyes changed! I was looking to see how much 25% Vampirism looked and my eyes were human looking with the red tinge. Kinda crazy looking the first time I saw it. Oh and by the way, the servant for Rosethorn finally said something different! I was waiting for her to sleep so I could feed and when I walked up to her she said something like "Something seems...amiss with you, milord".--Quidon88 12:25, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Added "Note about skill increases in Magic"

Hi, I'm new to this place and thought I would add my 2 cents. I added a comment about skill increases in magic when you are at a higher level in vampirism. I discovered this one day when I was unable to cast the new spell I created after I fed. It's a nice advantage and one reason I like playing at 100% vampire all the time in my game. Cheers.

-*EDIT* Thanks for whoever added the link to the other skill boosts info. I wasn't sure about that myself.

[edit] The comment about Resist Fire and Sun damage

Has anyone else had a chance to mess around with this? I had a Dark Elf vampire who, with enchantments from sigil stones, had resist fire near 200%. This, however, did not seem to help much at all with the blasted sun damage. Can anyone validate and hopefully quantify the comment about resist fire?

As a sidenote, I also tried getting resist magic quite high, (100% anyway). I still seem to be taking full sun damage with 125% resist fire (not counting the 50% weakness) and 100% resist magic. --70.176.248.24 11:21, 5 May 2007 (EDT)Stevil

Just did a test. Full Vampirism, 113 HP. Took 15 seconds to die from sun damage at noon with both -50% Resist Fire (default for full vampire) and with 90% Resist Fire (4 Sigil Stones at 35% each = 140%, -50% from vampirism). Removing comment from article. --Deathbane27 12:28, 5 May 2007 (EDT)
Thanks for confirming. Damn I wish it did though :D

70.176.248.24 10:12, 6 May 2007 (EDT) Stevil

[edit] Problems with advancing after eating the Heart?

Hi, I'm playing on the Xbox 360 and I chose to eat the Beating Heart from the Mehrunes Razor quest to become a vampire. I am able to attain the first level of vampirism easily, but no amount of waiting or sleeping will give me a higher level then the first. I've slept and waited each for about two weeks with no effects. Any ideas? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.160.91.133 (talkcontribs).

You need to go some time without feeding before sleeing to advance in rank. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.240.191.166 (talkcontribs).

[edit] Sleeping Outside

In the 'Notes' section of this article it reports that: "If you are outside of a town and you are taking sun damage, try to find a bed to sleep on. You can sleep until the sun sets to avoid dying from the daylight." I assumed that this was referring to a bed outdoors and I woke up dead (strangely with my Health bar still full). I may have just misinterpreted the wording of this, however, a warning of some sorts might be a good idea. -Arador 20:38, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Skill Increases Question

I wonder if I could just clarify something. The vampire skill increases work a bit like the Skeleton Key bonus; they stop you increasing your skills and therefore your level if the bonus pushes them to or above 100? However, I understand they are also different from the Night Mother's Blessing etc, which stop you getting to 100 for some reason (I'm not sure how this works, but that's what it says here). So, in other words, if your Destruction skill is say, 90, and you become a vampire, pushing it up to 95, can you then train from 95-100 as normal? Similarly, if you then cure yourself, will it then drop back down to 95 if you trained to this 100? Finally, can you train to 100, and then use Vampirism to get to 120, which, if I'm right, will reduce your magicka costs for spells?

A bit convoluted - sorry - but help would be awesome. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.127.79.8 (talkcontribs).

The article on Free Skill Boosts provides some of the information you're looking for. All three of the bonuses you mention are treated as "abilities" and therefore work the same way. Vampirism will boost the base value of your skills, so it becomes more expensive and difficult to train up and increase the skills. You can get to 100 in any skill with or without vampirism, but with vampirism you can miss out on some attribute bonuses. If you train destruction to 100 and then become a vampire, your skill value will be boosted past 100, but you don't benefit from the boost (see Skills). Almost all skill values max out at 100, so 100 in destruction is the same as 120 or even 250. --NepheleTalk 02:07, 20 June 2007 (EDT)
To add on to what Nephele was saying, no the Destruction skills or other skills wont do anything past 100, but the +20 from the 3 attributes and from athletics and acrobatics can help you out past 100. If you are trying to become a Vampire on purpose I would recommend getting 100 in Strength, Willpower, Speed, Athletics and Acrobatics before you get the disease.161.57.229.103 01:37, 8 May 2008 (EDT)xBlink N Die

[edit] Would fire resistance protect from sun damage?

If I had 100% fire shield could I not take sun damage? 68.60.226.203 17:48, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

No, because Sun Damage is a completely separate effect.

[edit] Vampirism by Choice (moved from main article)

The second way to become a vampire by choice doesn't work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.17.32.210 (talkcontribs).

[edit] Easy way to get blood grass and night shade.

Oblivion: An easy way to get blood grass and night shade is if you have the wizard tower thing then go to the ingridient part of the tower and there you can find nightshade and blood grass. I had to do that because I couldn't find any nightshade and i finished the main quest so i could not go to the plane of oblivion to get the stuff.

[edit] Doesn't go through the normal Vampirism stages

I happen to be having the same problem (Yes, me again in Oblivion this time!). I followed OGRastamon's instructions on waiting THEN resting after contracting PH. I successfully transformed into a vampire, but I don't go through the normal stages of vampirism. I tried waiting and resting but that didn't work. I have also tried the instant Vampirism headstone and I get the same results. (Patched to the latest version [1.2.0416{Non-SI}]) I disabled all my mods and it still didn't work. Sam324 19:59, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Never mind, I found this great mod called Vampire Script Fix. It fixes this problem.

[edit] Tips/Recommendations For Vampires

Hello all, being a vampire has it ups and downs we all know. But the down can be conquered if approached in the right way.

The Ups.. Attribute Raises(probably the best perk of being a vampire) Extra Magical Spells(Eg. Embrace of the shadows,reign of terror etc etc.)

The downs....The biggest downside in being a vampire is The sunlight damage...Its annoying...potentially killing and disallows you to fast travel while taking damage. Another big downside is when your a full vampire your face changes and people refuse to talk to you.(This can be overridden)

weakness to fire 75%

Feeding-can be hassling.

Tips/Conquering the down sides.

If your a Dark Elf/Dunmer becoming a vampire has its up sides for example a dunmer has 75% resist fire and a vampire has weakness to fire 75%, so 75-75=0. Theres that problem done.

the sunlight damage can be overridden by simply keeping out of the sun. Often i use this trick. Normally shops close around 8.00pm so it gets dark(safe to fast travel) at around 6.30-7.00pm. Wait in a safe place ( Inn or shop) until around 6.30pm. Then you can go out and roam randomly or buy whatever you want without taking sun damage.

After you become a full vampire people avoid you and start to say ' No No Stay way from me!' theres a way to conquer this. A Strong Charm spell OR your 'vampires seduction' spell once a day can raise their disposition towards you to 100. No matter how much they think you're a vampire they WILL talk to you.

Ok, now if you don't want to become a full vampire you HAVE to feed, feeding...many options some of which harder to obtain then others. You can feed on mages/fighters guild members,beggars(probably the best source) and other randoms. A good way to have access to a reliable feeding source is to buy a house in Imperial waterfront district and sleep/wait till when the beggar near the wall goes to sleep..he's such an easy bite you just cant miss him. Note: If a guard sees you feeding it is considered an assault and you will be aressted for it. So try secluded places with little or no guards at all.

A VERY VERY easy way to feed, avoid sunlight and possibly have he access to a thieves guild doyen(he can pay of your bounty) is to BUY A HOUSE IN IMPERIAL WATERFRONT DISTRICT. This will deal with mainly all your problems of being a vampire.

doing quests while being a vampire sucks the most because normally you have to fast travel tot he location. waiting till night time fixes this problem but still your visibility is limited.

hope this helped you guys who have some trouble with becomeing a vampire. Note: Always make sure you have a cure dieses spell/potion if you want to purposely want to become a vampire because if you dont like it after 72 hours thers no turning back....

(Remember - You only take sun damage when you are above 25% vamp., and you only go up in vamp. level if you rest or wait, but you don't when you fast travel, and if you have a maxed character, the 20 points in strength, for example, is worthless unless you have not raised it by leveling. Just a few more tips :) --Voyevode 18:14, 21 December 2007 (EDT)

Here is another tip, but it only works if you have Mastery level in Restoration, at least 500 magicka, and access to a spellmaking alter. Go to the spell making alter and make a spell that restores health 8, 9 or 10 pts (I did 10 just so I had some extra health to play around with and it keeps the magicka cost realitively lower then if you go up to 11 but 8 will do just fine since thats how much you get hurt from the sun at 100% vampirism) for 120 seconds on self. You can name it anything you want but I would recommend a name that allows you to easily tell its for preventing sun damage (for instance I named mine "sunscreen"). This spell costs between 400 and 500 magicka to use but it counters the sun damge for 2 minutes, if anything else it gives you some more time to get out of the sun. Also if you only have around 500 magicka carry a single welkyand stone with you and some scrolls (or arrows) to duplicate the stone with, and then you can pretty much stay safe from the sun as long as you want.
Oh yeah by the way Voyevode, the plus 20 in strength still does help you even if your strength is 100 already, so does the plus 20 in speed, willpower, acrobatics, and athletics. Any of your attributes (Strength, Intelligence, Willpower, Agility, etc etc) if raised over 100 still increase the effect and acrobatics and athletics are the only skills that have any extra effect over 100.161.57.229.103 19:16, 8 May 2008 (EDT)xBlink N Die

[edit] Human Blood Doesnt Work?

In Vincent's valteri's desk and if you have done the thieves guild quest with the pale lady, you will find they both have Human Blood in their possession. Now a vampire sucks Human Blood, so if you drink human blood obtained in the potion like form wouldn't that be the same as sucking someones blood?

Its not, tested and tried, drinking human blood from the bottle does not act as a substitute for actually sucking someones blood.

These don't actually work, but there are several mods that make it work like it should. See here. —Sam324 10:54, 12 August 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Sun Damage In Oblivion

I'm a vampire and I'm about to start completing the main quest, but I want to know first, can you get hit by sun damage in the planes of oblivion, ie, through the oblivion gates. cos i dont think there's a sun in there, is there? Any help would be welcome, thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.238.213.26 (talkcontribs).

Correct: there is no sun in the Planes of Oblivion, therefore vampires do not take any sun damage while in Oblivion. --NepheleTalk 21:45, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Face Issue

I keep reading about a problem with vampire faces - mainly that you have to keep a save game from before your character was a vampire, and load it before your 'infected one', otherwise your character will walk around with the default vampire face. I was just wondering if anyone had experienced this issue and if there is any truth in it. Also, if it is the case, and you have to load this preliminary save each time you play, do you have to do it with quicksave/load as well? Because that would be a fluppin' nightmare. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.127.79.8 (talkcontribs).

I got Porphyric Hemophilia and I drank a cure disease potion. But no one will talk to me, like when you gain 100% vampire. I look the same and I don't have any vampirism skills or powers. Is there any way to fix this.

-- I also got the face issue with my female Dunmer. Using the sexchange command did not work, nor did advancing in vampirism. Strangely enough, when I installed Shivering Isles and slept, my face became normal again. Roguelike.

-- I have the face issue, can testify that it is a problem. I didn't know about this issue before I became a vampire though so I didn't have a save with the correct face (I only noticed the problem after 3 hours of playing, and many save overwrites after I became a vampire). So I loaded the character race editor thru the console ("showracescreen" I think?) and that reverted my face back to what I made it. However it also reverted some of my minor stats...not sure why that happened. So basically now I have a save that I can load with the correct face, incorrect stats, and then I load the right save which has my stats and current spot in the quest lines. Lots of trouble I know...but the only time I notice the face gets loaded incorrectly is when I've exited the game and gone back in. So that's when I have to first load the previous game and then switch to the real one that I'm playing on.

-- To get ur face back after cured type "showracemenu" in console, then move age slider just a bit so char will change face for original and save game. Do not press done button cose this will make ur skills reset. Just load that save u made on race screen.

[edit] The flight of the beast

Is there ever any instance where being a level 4 vampire will result in the inhabitants of a town attacking you, and driving you out of it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Merco (talkcontribs).

I've had guards attack me once. I had just killed someone, and although I thought I hadn't been seen, I might have been. regardless, there was no option to go to jail or to pay, you would automatically resist arrest. I'll check whether this is only when you commit a crime. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.107.125.117 (talkcontribs).

Ok, checked it out. I pickpocketed a guard at full vampirism and got the normal message when I got caught. I then killed someone, and got the "Feeding time is over," message. So it seems to be to do with bounty. -Dan 9410 05:43, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

i hadn't done anything, in fact i had just got out of jail, nad when waiting in jail i became a full vampire, as soon as i left the prison, i talked to a guard and he said "get back monster" or something like that, so, sorry, no, you don't have to do anything to get the guards on you if you are a full vampire. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Osiris (talkcontribs).

[edit] Turning Others

Is there any way to turn others into vampires? Townspeople, guards, etc.? Either within the game or with the console commands? Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.225.4.213 (talkcontribs).

No because theres no magic or items that have that power. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.153.207.10 (talkcontribs).
It seems like there has to be a way of inflicting an NPC with a disease, just as vampirism is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.225.4.213 (talkcontribs).
Certain NPCs carry diseases and can infect the player (beggars, vampires), but there's no way of giving a new disease to an NPC without cheating or modding. --RpehTCE 15:38, 5 December 2007 (EST
Why was the first question signed by my name? I did not ask it. Roguelike
Sorry, Roguelike. Just an accident that happened when trying to sort out who said what. --NepheleTalk 23:45, 25 December 2007 (EST)
Thereis a spell if you use psb in the conole that gives you a spel called vampires gift that inflicts the Vampire disease and damage healt,I don't knoe If it works. Or using the CS to make a vampire looking character.--Puddle 17:26, 29 February 2008 (EST)
You can click on the target and type 'addspell _______' where the blank is Vampirism25's FormID. 24.108.161.152 19:30, 5 March 2008 (EST)

[edit] Different page for monsters?

Is there a different page for the enemy Vamps? I was looking for some ideas on how weak they are to fire etc and couldnt find any... thanks DragonFlame 15:40, 28 December 2007 (EST)

Sorry, we haven't gotten to documenting the enemy vampires properly yet, in part because a decision needs to be made about how to organize the pages.... You can piece together some of the info, if you want. They use the standard classes, as listed at Classes; they have all the same attribute bonuses, skill bonuses, and abilities as the player at 100% vampirism. So, for example, they have 50% weakness to fire and 20% resist normal weapons. They also have the Embrace of Shadows and Hunter's Sight spells, but not the Reign of Terror or Vampire's Seduction spells. I hope that helps! --NepheleTalk 16:44, 28 December 2007 (EST)

[edit] Trivial Questions

I've already had and cured vampirism, so I can't try this out. I was wondering if you talk to the vampire hunters in the "Information at a Price" quest when you're a vampire, if they'll react. Also, I completed the quest before the mage's guild mission where you first meet the count, he doesn't react in any way or even recognize me. He treats me like a foolish stranger, even though I'm the one who cured his wife! And I was wondering if they'res anything special about Argonians in the vampire lore, because they seem to react with more hostility than other races. And there's also the whole 'blood of an argonian' thing. And of course, there are no argonian vampires in the game. -thanks

[edit] Enchanted Armour Creation

This pertains to Vampirism. It is also a 2 part question. I play on the XBOX 360 and I have every plugin installed except for SI

  1. I have accidentally become a vampire, but cured myself at Deepscorn Hollow. I completed Mehrune's Razor and kept the beating heart, as my complete set of perma-bound armour was "fortify strength" enchanted and I was able to force the gate. If I eat the heart, will I contract vampirism again, despite me already curing it?
  2. If I make a new character to be a vampire, I can use Frostcrag Spire to stir up some nice enchanted perma-bound armour. However, I want to be able to walk around in daylight as a vampire. What would be the best enchantment to use on a full set of *permanent* Bound Armour (Helm, cuirass, greaves, boots, gauntlets, 2 rings and a necklace) that would keep the sun from killing me instantly? Maybe a fortify health, or a CE healing spell on the armour?

Thank you for reading and hopefully for an answer. ImmortalKaine 02:37, 17 January 2008 (EST)

On your first question;
Eating the Beating Heart will only give you the Porphyric Hemophilia disease. If you have already been a Vampire, and been cured from it, then the disease will only act like a normal disease (Drain Fatigue 5pts on Self). You will not become a Vampire again.
As for your second question;
It appears that there is no way you can counter Sun Damage. The only thing you could try is Resist Magic enchantments, but I doubt they will work (effectively). However, as you can see here, you will only suffer Sun Damage if you haven't fed for over 24 hours and slept afterwards. The Sun Damage increases the longer you don't feed, but feeding once will reset you back to no Damage. --Timenn < talk > 06:02, 17 January 2008 (EST)

has anyone tested resist magic? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.154.124.81 (talkcontribs).

I have tried everything to try to counter the sun damage (no resist magic and resist fire do not work), theres no way to actually stop it but if you go to a spell-making alter you can make a pretty effective heal spell, the one I created (I named it sunscreen lol) heals 10 hp for 120 seconds giving you 2 minutes of no damage since the 10 cancels the 8 caused by the sun, the only downfall to this is it requires master level in restoration and uses a lot of magic (between 400 and 500 magicka). The best way to help with the magic is to carry a welykand stone and a couple scrolls that are exactly alike so you can duplicate the stone, and use the stone when you need the more magic. Also I do not know how I did it but I am still considered 100% Vampire but people dont act like im infected, I am not hurt by the sun, i still have the attribute and skill bonuses, I still have the weakness to fire, but i just made a couple of rings that resist fire and did the constant enchant glitch. If you want to read more about this look at "Did quest for the cure and used cure, Still Vampire!!! (well kinda)" down below.161.57.229.103 02:04, 8 May 2008 (EDT)xBlink N Die

just make a piece of armor that fortifies health 8 points (constant effect)

[edit] Face Resetting

I've moved this note from the main article:

  • There is a bug where your facial structure resets to the default values that you got in the beginning, before Valen Dreth starts talking to you in your cell. For example, if you made your character have angry eyes with a frown and this bug occurred, then your character won't look angry nor will he/she have the frown; it's completely reset. This bug will occur every now and then, and it's completely random. The bug however, does not alter the complexion or shadowing you gave our character in the beginning. If you gave your character blushed cheeks and "eye liner", then he/she will have that even though the facial structure has reset. This bug does not effect the gameplay whatsoever, but it might be a nuisance to those who want their character to have a certain facial configuration. Also some helmets becomes unwearable because of the head model. If you wear them you'll have it on, but two tan things sticks out the side, like the model didn't plan want to accept it.
To get back your old appearance, drink the cure potion whilst wearing the Cowl of Nocturnal.

My reasons for moving it are that a) there's no indication of when the bug happens and b) it's one of the worst bits of English I've ever seen. If somebody can convince me this happens in the un-modded game and that they can describe it properly then please add it back to the main article. –RpehTCE 02:21, 29 January 2008 (EST)

[edit] Geting infected while sleeping

What i think about the sleeping in places, getting infected is, those people must activated Dark Gift quest, so vincente comes and bites em anywhere right?--║Æ║ 22:45, 8 February 2008 (EST)

Vicente Valtieri will only bite you in the sanctuary. At that point you get given porphyric hemophilia but don't become a vampire until three days later. I hope that answers your question. –RpehTCE 01:48, 9 February 2008 (EST)
My thought on these people waking up a vampire is they dont pay close attention to diseases when they get them and didn't realize they had the disease and eventually poof they are a vampire!!!161.57.229.103 02:21, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Freddy Kreuger visited me

I contracted the vampire disease 1 week ago i kept sleeping to get more vampire powers, during the late stage of vampirism i got nightmare #8,9,10 somehow when i got one of them i died suddenly when i woke up is that normal? --Umbacano 10:37, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Umm...were you sleeping outside? I don't think it's normal for the dreams to actually damage you, but I'm not entirely sure. –Eshetalk22:53, 23 February 2008 (EST)

No, i wasn't sleeping outside i was indoor at my house.--Umbacano 12:43, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Did you have any poisons on you from potions?--Marleysexton 12:46, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Nope.--Umbacano 03:25, 26 February 2008 (EST)

It's either a glitch, which is unlikely, or something may be up with your system (assuming that you are playing on a PC). There may have been a damaging effect active before you went to sleep which killed you during sleep and could only act the script when the game "re-activated", but as I remember it, the game won't let you sleep if you're taking damage. Hmm... What exactly happened. Did you wake up, and then just suddenly flop to the ground without warning? More information please. --HMSVictory 15:32, 26 February 2008 (EST)
I have to agree with HMSVictory here. There is nothing in the VampScript that would cause you to die, and nothing in the dream segment of the script that damages you or kills you. You either had some negative effect on you that killed you, or you may have been standing in a bugged spot and when you woke up you suddenly took a insane amount of fall damage which killed you. It's possible that some kind of weird random bug like that may have killed you. It is possible to sleep while taking damage. For example you could have accidentally clicked on a poison apple, gone to sleep, and woken up dead. --Shalley303 16:14, 26 February 2008 (EST)
You might have got a visit from "The Conjurer" who comes with the spell tomes plug-in, although he looks for you outside it does sometimes allow him to get into buildings, like Frostcrag Spire is the most commonly known.161.57.229.103 02:18, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Talking to other vampires

When you become a vampire and you enter a a vampire den do the vampires present attack you or talk to you? Just wondering.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.15.165.130 (talkcontribs).

No. Other vampires react as normal. There's a call to a function called IsVampire (I seem to recall) that must return 0 before the standard vampire reactions occur. –RpehTCE 09:27, 18 March 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Maybe I missed something...

Nobody seemed to mention the problem of being a vampire and trying to complete the mage's guild storyline... Anyone else panic like I did? Vampire = 100% resistance to paralyze... Good thing I have a brain! (and some reflect spells) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.60.179.167 (talkcontribs).

Or maybe I missed something??? I don't remember any point in the Mages Guild where you must be paralyzed. What exactly is the problem that you are trying to describe? --NepheleTalk 14:49, 26 April 2008 (EDT)
I think what he's trying to say is that you can't be paralyzed by the King of Worms at the end. Although I have absolutely no idea if 100% paralisis resistance would effect anything considering it is a script.--Imperial Scum 18:41, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Page for NPC vampires

I was hoping to try and start off this page soon, but it would be usefull if anyone else who knows a lot on this topic would tell me all they know about NPC vampires so I can add that to my current knowledge. Just to ensure I do not miss anything when I start writing…---Bartimeaus77 16:57, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

Notable vampires are already listed on Oblivion's Vampire article. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk)/(Contribs) 21:02, 27 March 2008 (EDT)
I think we should probably split the Notable Vampires to a separate page. Like the template uptop says, we should split this into a few smaller articles. Ocylith 10:43, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

[edit] my skin is burning!!!!!!!

i was having the dreams dream one where he dreams of the person being bit and the second dream where he finds his pearants dead i went and killed rufio when i heared the second dream for some reason when i left the inn of ill omen smoke started coming from my person his life keeps on going down untill he dies and his skin goes red what is going on please someone help me please please. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.6.100.140 (talkcontribs).

Are you quite high in the stages of vampirism? If so you will not be able to go outside during the day without getting sun damage. --Volanaro 14:31, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

Not being funny but what made you think that being a Vampire would not cause sun damage? What vampire films have you been watching??? ----Bartimeaus77TalkContibsEmail 16:10, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Did quest for the cure and used cure, Still Vampire!!! (well kinda)

I did the quest for the vampires cure and used my potion, but it is still showing 100% vampirism in my menu, and I still have the spells and skill and attribute bonuses. I also still had the fire weakness but I used the unlimited enchant glitch to get it back up to 100% resist fire. The funny thing is I cannot feed on people, even my sleeping prisoner in Deepscorn Hollow, guards do not attack me and people talk to me normal, and no matter what I am not affected by the sunlight even the glare isn't showing up. My face looks older but I don't look like a vampire anymore. It is cool and all but I am kind of baffled. If anybody knows how I did this or finds out how I did it can you please tell me so I can do it with other characters. Oh by the way I'm playing the GotY edition on Xbox 360. I am also going to see if I can find out how I did it on a new character I just created, if I do find it out I will post how I did it right here in this question so other people know how to do it.161.57.229.103 23:28, 7 May 2008 (EDT)xBlink N Die

[edit] A Brotherhood Betrayed

Should this quest be added to the main page in the related quest sections? I know there aren't actually any vampires, but the presense of the self-proclaimed "vampire hunter" does beg the question.--Imperial Scum 18:48, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

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