Oblivion talk:Wisdom of the Ages

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[edit] A possible bug

Doing the last part of the quest, I found that if I dropped the helm of Rodgar (not in a chest), it floated in mid air (like a paintbrush). It was then impossible to pick up again, and the quest was broken, so I had to load a save. The other items didn't do this. Can anyone confirm this? Vlad the Imperial 15:34, 21 October 2007 (EDT)

Never seen it myself, but it's already on the article as a bug so I'd say that at least one other person has had that problem. --Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 02:56, 22 October 2007 (EDT)

So it is. I must have missed that! Vlad the Imperial 03:41, 22 October 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Bug?

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ey guys, when i was playing oblivion today, i ended up in the subquest: :"Wisdom of the ages", from the knights of the nine quest. You have to recover the Shield of the Nine in this quest as you will probably know. Getting to the point: i was in the single last room with the puzzle with the eight stone guardians. I read the walkthrough here on the uesp and it was perfectly saying how the solve it

a quote: "The final piece of the mystery is that in the ninth chest you will find a single item. If you take the item and randomly place it in another chest, it disappears... and a new item appears in the central chest.

If you do this enough times, you will notice that each of the statues has a different item that appears in front of it. You will also notice that the same eight items appear in the central chest. To solve the puzzle, you need to take the items from the central chest one by one and place them in the correct chest, i.e. "

The problem in my case was, that when i picked an item up from the large chest (i.e Rodgar's Sword) i couldnt find it back in my inventory. With the result of not be able to put the right item in the chest. If anyone recognize this problem or know a explenation/ solution for this "bug" please let me hear. Thank You in advance.

--Geniepert 14:24, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Two possibilities that come to mind at the moment:

• Are you looking in the "Miscellaneous" section of your inventory? All of the items (even the sword or helm) are classified as miscellaneous items, so they should show up at the bottom of the last page of your inventory.
• Any chance you have a really large number of items in your inventory? I know with containers there can be a problem where newly added items appear to not be there (Items Disappearing from Containers). I haven't previously heard of it happening with characters, but I'd guess it might be possible if you were carrying 200+ items (lots of zero-weight keys and lightweight ingredients?). If that's the case, then temporarily storing any extra stuff you're carrying into a convenient container (probably not any of the ones in that puzzle room; I'd go back to the previous room to find a container) should fix the problem.

I hope one of those ideas helps. If not, I'll try thinking of some more possibilities. --Nephele^Talk 15:24, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Nephele you were right :). Too many items in my inventory caused the problem. Like you said I emptied my inventory in containers of previous rooms and that solved the problem. Thank you for your answer and the quick reaction !

To help others in the future with this bug I've also added the solution by the "Notes" Section of the questwalkthrough.

p.s sorry for posting on the communityportal but I didnt know yet were to place questions about a quest.

Kind Regards --Geniepert 05:44, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Freedom?

Does anyone knows what happens If I do not free Sir Therdet? Does he just stay in there?

That's something that's definitely worth investigating. I can't tell what happens from the scripts and I don't have a character anywhere near the right place to check. Let's see if somebody else can help! —Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 02:22, 8 January 2008 (EST)

If you don't let him go yourself he manages to escape on his own while you avert the conjurers attention from him. He then comes to the Priory thanking you and asking you if he can become a Knight of the Nine.--Willyhead 16:38, 14 January 2008 (EST)

Actually he doesn't ask anything, he just becomes a knight without asking permission (like the others do). That's propably also why he is the only knight that is essential until the end of the entire KoTN questline.--LordDagon 09:18, 2 April 2008 (EDT)