Shivering talk:Shadowrend

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Contents 1 Shadowrend Page 2 Both Skills At 100 3 Console Codes 4 What happens if both skills are at 100? 5 Repeated 30-35 Edits 6 Version of Shadowrend 7 Weapon Speed

[edit] Shadowrend Page

Does this item actually need its own page? Seems to me like it should be included on the Shivering:Weapons page. --GuildKnight (Talk) ^contribs 20:00, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

Shivering:Weapons is already quite lengthy. That, combined with the fact that this is a leveled weapon that assumes either a blunt or blade form depending on the player's stats when they perform the quest that rewards it, makes this weapon notable enough to warant an entry page of its own, IMO. --^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.14.2.104 (talk • contribs).}

Actually, I was looking at this earlier, and I'm starting to think we should be dividing the Shivering Items weapons (and armor and clothing for that matter) the same way we do the Oblivion ones. Leveled on one page, unique on another page, generic on another. (There's actually a fair number of new generic weapons which use pre-expansion models with new enchantments that haven't even been mentioned on the site yet.) So, let's consider: Shivering:Unique Weapons, Shivering:Leveled Weapons, Shivering:Generic Weapons, just to start with? --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 22:26, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

Sounds Sensible. 65.14.2.104 23:29, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

Okay, I'm starting to grasp the breadth of the weapons... still, if this weapon keeps a page of its own, shouldn't it be a subpage of leveled weapons, like Shivering:Leveled Weapons/Shadowrend. --GuildKnight (Talk) ^contribs 18:43, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

Overall, I think the existing page name is more useful than a subpage, such as Shivering:Leveled_Weapons/Shadowrend. The subpage structure tells you what type of page it is, but that can be done just as efficiently with categories and bread crumb trails. And keeping the page name simple means less work for editors to add links, and means that the "Go" button on the search menu has a chance of finding the page if someone is looking for Shadowrend (or at least it will once some tweaks to the search engine have been implemented). We've been slowly moving away from using subpages for organization, although there are obviously some sections that would talk a lot of work to fix (such as Tamriel Books), and therefore have been left for now with the old organization. --Nephele^Talk 19:24, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Both Skills At 100

If you have both skills at 100, which do you get? ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.73.215.69 (talk • contribs).}

I keep getting a shield instead when I defeat my clone. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.206.4.184 (talk • contribs).}

I can confirm that you get the claymore version if both skills are at 100. 77BeTa77 22:09, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Console Codes

What is the console command to add shadowrend to your inventory?? ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.97.149.112 (talk • contribs).}

I've added the incomplete tag to the page, which will hopefully prompt somebody to fill in the missing console codes. --Rpeh^Talk 08:45, 3 July 2007 (EDT)

There, I did it. Now someone else can clean it up, make it look all pretty-like, because I have no idea how to do that. --Saruuk 08:58, 3 July 2007 (EDT)

By gum that was fast work! I think it looks fine already, but I imagine somebody with better taste will tidy it up. --Rpeh^Talk 09:23, 3 July 2007 (EDT)

[edit] What happens if both skills are at 100?

Which version would you receive? ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.31.32.197 (talk • contribs).}

In the case of a tie, you get the Claymore version. (I think) --Saruuk 18:57, 9 September 2007 (EDT)

Yes, confirmed. I've changed the article's text accordingly. --Nephele^Talk 23:38, 12 September 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Repeated 30-35 Edits

To the editor who keeps adding the 30-35 edits: Since you may not be familiar with how to read your own Talk page, I'll post here to be doubly sure.

Your information keeps getting backed out (by a couple of different people now) because the Construction Set confirms that there are only versions of the sword up to level 30. There are several possible reasons that damage of your sword may be higher than the base of 28 that is marked on the sword, including Armorer modifications bringing damage above 28, the presense of mods, Strength increases beyond 100 (may require a mod...I'd have to check), and probably a few others I'm not thinking of. If you are utterly convinced that your information is correct, send me a private e-mail and I'll arrange for you to send me a copy of your saved game so that I can see for myself what is going on. --Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 02:46, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

You are right. I've acquired it at various levels, 30, 35, 53. They were all the same. Base damage of 28 is also correct, Strength above 100(tested with 125 base attribute; no Mod, just increased to 115 during "Addiction" then used the Oghnium Infinium) did not increase the base damage value. Reparing it to 125 condition at Strength 100+, Blade/Blunt 100+ will increase the damage value shown to 33, which is the same with Umbra(the sword) Only possible reason I can think of that may display its base damage value at weapon condition 100 to be greater than 28 is when it's not actually 100 but 100.45 etc.(game rounds these figures down) The weapon has a extremely high health so, health of 1004.5 may display its damage value to be 29, but I highly doubt it.--Webdemon00 13:44, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

Sorry, since the last post, the base damage value of Shadowrend at 100 condition (repaired by a smith) has increased to 30. I have no idea why. Nothing has change, and I haven't leveled up. But still, highest version of Shadowrend is 30+ --Webdemon00 00:30, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Version of Shadowrend

When is the version of shadowrend that you receive determined, at the start of the quest, upon entering the grove, or when the clone is spawned? If anyone knows the answer to this, I think it should be added to Shadowrend and maybe Symbols of Office at the point in the quest where it is determined. However, I am fairly new here and will leave this decision to a more experienced member. Selvrin 20:05, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

I think it is determined by the time the quest starts. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lucky the Cat Guy (talk • contribs) on 10 August 2008.}

From the article: "If your Blunt skill is greater than your Blade skill at the point when your Shadow Clone is created, you will receive the battleaxe. If your Blade skill is greater, or if the two skills have the same value, you will receive the claymore." –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 02:42, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Weapon Speed

The speed for Shadowrend is listed as .85. Is the .05 significant? I've looked around on other weapons and have not found any other speeds that go to the hundredth's place. Will Shadowrend actually swing faster than most other 2handed blades(which almost all seem to have a speed of .8 and a reach of 1.3)? SteviL 22:28, 13 November 2008 (EST)

Yes, but good luck spotting it in action! A difference of just 6.25% isn't going to be noticeable in most cases. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 00:44, 14 November 2008 (EST)

Of course it's noticeable. It makes a HUGE difference. This makes it the best weapon EVER! SteviL 12:07, 14 November 2008 (EST)