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Contents 1 Sword of Jyggalag is Leveled(?) 2 The Sword of Jyggalag is not a stub anymore 3 Special effects? 4 Wrong Version

[edit] Sword of Jyggalag is Leveled(?)

My character, with 100 Blade skill, deals 26 damage with the Sword of Jyggalag. Methinks it is leveled? --Kurai-sama 15:58, 26 April 2007 (GMT +3)

Confirmed. 6 Versions. It's placed on the back pedestal after Jyggy finishes his speech, placement is scripted based on which version of Jyggy spawned. I'll figured out the level ranges and update the page shortly. --Deathbane27 09:16, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for the quick response. --Kurai-sama 18:58, 26 April 2007 (GMT +3)

[edit] The Sword of Jyggalag is not a stub anymore

I have improved the article with more information is needed. The Sword is not anymore a stub. To the fellow editors: Do not make the article a stub because it is full of information needed for the reader to know. Tiberius Stormrider

Kid... do not tell other editors how to edit the article. You do not own the article. There is nothing that gives you the right to make such a 'request'. Much of the information you have added already exists in the article, is subject to common sense, or is mostly speculation. Here are some simple tips for the future:

• Read the rest of the article.
• Learn the definition of redundancy.
• Learn what sentence fragments are.
• Learn what punctuation is.
• Learn what weasel words are.

--Saruuk 08:04, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

You beat me to it, Saruuk. Tiberius Stormrider, I refer you to the previous comment from Nephele placed on your talk page (You can see it under 'Response' here despite your deletion of it) as well as comments from other editors. Please remember that articles are not yours and we have a Style Guide you need to follow. If you could learn to follow the basic rules of the site, I'm sure you'll be welcomed into the community with open arms. If not, these pointless and tiresome edit wars will continue until an administrator takes action - as they surely will. --Rpeh^Talk 08:17, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Special effects?

I equipped this thing for the first time today (never bothered to pick it up as it A) looked nice on the pedastal and B) has a horribly low damage compared to other weapons) and noticed it gave me three different effects( all of which exist only while the sword is equipped): the "Touch of Order" spell which apparently causes knockdown for a few seconds for 3 energy (it's a spell, not a lesser/Greater Power); the passive effect called "Powers of the Jyggalag," which gives 65% paralysis resistance and +3/second health regen ; and a final spell called "Jyggalag's Supremacy," a spell that causes 45 damage in 10 feet for 15 energy (the energy levels are at my rather unimpressive magic levels). Again, the abilities are not powers.
Now, this might just be me, as my game has about 2 dozen mods all running at once on it, but I'm fairly certain they aren't causing this (none of them mentioned anything about Jyggalag or his weaponry). But the spells are undocumented, and although it can be encahnted, the effects are applied regardless. If this is just a silent effect of a mod, then that's fine, but if it's supposed to be this way, it really ought to be in the article. Can anyone confirm if this is not unique to me? --Jette 17:40, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

The spells/powers you describe all exist in the vanilla version of Oblivion, but only Jyggalag has access to them normally. Checking the construction set, there are no scripts that run when you equip the Sword of Jyggalag and there are no scripts that add any of these spells to the player at any point. Checking in-game (with no third-party mods), equipping the Sword of Jyggalag also has no effect; none of the spells you list appear in my character's spell list and there are no new active effects. So it sounds like this is an effect caused by one of your mods. --Nephele^Talk 20:38, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Very odd. It's possible I've gotten "his" version of the sword. It may be he has a unique version that does give him access to the abilities, but since he doesn't drop it himself, the player can't it acquire it. Possibly a bug caused by something or other. Can't imagine why they wouldn't just attribute the powers to him, though... Oh well, thanks for telling me, I'll see if I can figure out which one does this. --Jette 21:19, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Even Jyggalag doesn't get the powers because he's using the sword: he has those spells/powers automatically at all times, whether or not the sword is equipped. In fact, Jyggalag isn't even technically equipped with any sword, so there is no special version of the sword that is used by Jyggalag. The only swords with the name "Sword of Jyggalag" are the "trophy swords" listed in this article, none of which have any enchantment or associated script. --Nephele^Talk 21:54, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Bleh, looks like it's time to start ripping mods apart and see if I can figure out why this happened. Till then, I'll just enjoy my free knockdowns :P

[edit] Wrong Version

For some reason, i got the 15-17 version, and i'm level 21. Why is this? - Lucky the Cat Guy 01:09, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

How exactly are you determining that you got the level 15-17 version? If you're judging the version based on the weapon damage, then the problem is most likely just that you don't understand how the base weapon damage shown in articles relates to damage that your character will actually inflict using the weapon (see The Complete Damage Formula and Weapons). --Nephele^Talk 09:53, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Well, my blade skill is 100, but i guess level determines it too? - Lucky the Cat Guy. 03:59, 15 August 2008 (EDT)

You might want to try reading the link that I provided to answer your question. Because on The Complete Damage Formula it tells you what exactly will determine the damage: your blade skill, your strength, and the weapon's health. --Nephele^Talk 11:11, 16 August 2008 (EDT)