Skyrim talk:Elder Knowledge

Mage's Guild

Be nice if we could do this quest without joining the mages guild :| - Will79

I see no place where it says you have to be in the Mages Guild. His Immortal Majesty, Eric Snowmane 03:52, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

You don"t even need to be doing the main quest in order to get the scroll.68.50.156.197 17:43, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Aftland

made some grammatical fixes, took out unneeded sentences, mostly focused on the last paragraph. in my experience, the centurion was as easily dispatched as any other centurion was, and i definitely did not find that it cast a "powerful constant effect spell that would quickly kill me regardless of my level" nor was i unable to "kill it from a distance." i dispatched it with my bow easily. of course, this character was level 34, but i've linked it to the centurion page and left a warning about the battle being more challenging for the lower levelled. — Unsigned comment by 74.98.172.95 (talk) at 05:35 on 2 December 2011

These kind of notes should be left on the edit page so they can easily be scene in the history, you also should sign all changes/additions on the discussion page, as such without going through the history of both pages no one has a clue who you are and which changes you made. (Killerchronic 20:27, 11 December 2011 (UTC))

Urag's bug

so here it says that the bug is triggered by conflict with the college questline. ive encountered the bug even i completed the questline. i have not completed all sidequests for the college, however. might that be the problem?

also, isnt there an option to just just force the speach option via console? saw that someone doing with the buying house bug in windhelm. — Unsigned comment by 94.222.113.129 (talk) at 15:29 on 17 December 2011

Stone Elder Scroll

This quest-related item weighs 20 pounds and seems unable to be dropped. Is there any way to get rid of this item? This takes out 2-3k worth of gold per dungeon delving. Really frustrating hitting encumbered because of this item.

I know there are a few temporary solutions(pots of strength for example) but I want a more permanent one. — Unsigned comment by 24.76.93.238 (talk) at 05:58 on 18 December 2011

You can sell it to the archivist in the Arcanaeum in the College of Winterhold. Tentacle 12:10, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

I thought essential quest related items didn't have weight? — Unsigned comment by 58.7.154.157 (talk) at 11:41 on 25 September 2012

Bugs with Quests

Urag gro-Shub lack the dialogue options, so I had to set this quest's stage to 80. Still, I didn't had a sphere for passage to Blackreach and Septimus doesn't want to give it to me. He also doesn't want to start his daedric quest. I stole items from him and completed this quest, but not the daedric one. Trying various console commands doesn't help. So I can't achieve "Oblivion walker" and get the "Oghma Infinium" now. — Unsigned comment by 178.206.4.29 (talk) at 06:14 on 18 December 2011

urag bug

I have the elders knowledge quest, but already had spoken to septimus and recieved his quest. Now urag doesn't have questline dialogue options. Tried reading the blades book on his desk, but did not help. Any idea on a ps3 fix for this. I'd hate to know my main questline was ruined... {{uns2|16:10, 1 January 2012|99.101.33.229}

Two books are required to be read, they will either be in the librarians inventory or on the desk.

Cause of urag bug

is it sure that the urag bug is caused by the college quests? i had that bug and it seemed to me that the bug was caused by me having already spoken to signus and got already the quest from him. that woudl also explain why signus is lagging the speech options too after procedding in the quest just oen step further (also the questmarker is set correctly). — Unsigned comment by 94.222.112.60 (talk) at 22:15 on 4 January 2012

Confusion

Completing the Quest for Hermaeus Mora will conflict with this quest if you haven't gotten to the point where you need to speak with Septimus Signus, due to the fact that he dies in the Hermaeus Mora quest. He is no longer there for you to be sent to. - Unless this has been really confirmed, isn't it common sense to know that if you've completed HM's quest, you already have the Elder Scroll... So why would you need Septimus at all? One would think there'd be a dialogue option with Paarthurnaxx along the lines of, "Oh, you mean this Elder Scroll?!" --Mikeyy 05:52, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

There is such a dialogue option. --Killfetzer 10:07, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

So is it absolutely necessary to include this line in the page if it's irrelevant anyway? --Mikey^talk_email 09:44, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes or no

Is there any way to do this quest through normal means (no console) without joining the Mages Guild?— Unsigned comment by 98.70.65.243 (talk) at 23:55 on 10 February 2012 (UTC)

EDIT: I do believe there is. I just went up to Septimus's hidey hole and got the box and the ball from him without even talking to Faralda. Can somebody please make sure the page says this clearly? I don't want anybody to get tricked into joining a guild they don't want to (Like me when I had to find Esbern). 98.70.65.243 00:12, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Elder scroll

For this quest do you have to use elder scroll dragon or can I use blood? Shadow 15:28, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

You need the Dragon one. Vely^►t►e 15:44, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

It has to be the SAME one the Nords used against Alduin, see Paarthurnax.--Br3admax 15:51, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Second Quest giver?

Given that this is part of the dawnguard questline, should the quest giver be updated to include Isran(I think he's the one that gave it to me)? Also, the prerequisite and next quests? How should it be handled?Ivan the Vandal (talk) 13:14, 20 October 2012 (GMT)

Having the Elder Scroll already

It seems the page doesn't fully recognize the option where you already have the Elder Scroll. I'd imagine it would go something like this:

Paarthurnax: To cast you back in time, I need an Elder Scroll. But I have no idea of where to find one.
You: No prob, yo. Here you are. *Brings out a soiled Scroll* Used it to clobber little children and as a sex toy mostly.
Paarthurnax: ---

Anyway, since the page doesn't say anything else, it could be true. CapnZapp (talk) 15:52, 9 December 2012 (GMT)