Skyrim talk:The Heart of Dibella

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[edit] Degaine?

I think the Degaine theft quest and the Dibella quest are completely unrelated. Yes, you have to break into the temple to Hamal to get the Dibella quest. And yes, Degaine asks you to break into the temple. If you encounter Hamal while you have the stolen statue, she probably won't let you accept the quest without returning the statue.

I broke in and took the statue without encountering Hamal, gave the statue to Degaine and returned to the temple to talk to Hamal. She gave me the quest and I'm seeking the Sybil now. — Unsigned comment by 99.126.180.158 (talk) at 05:45 on 25 November 2011

I did this too, and for some reason my 'Agent of Mara' buff disappeared around this time. :C --Bonabopn 22:37, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
You can alert Hamal before getting the statue, and IIRC you'll still have the statue dialog option. I wonder if stealing it after being given the Sybil quest works? 71.132.201.220 08:07, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
We're all clearly in agreement that these are two separate quests, the article should be changed to focus on this quest and not the task for Degaine. 205.133.160.174 02:02, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Degaine's quest is a minor one and it is intertwined with this one. I would imagine that there are many more important things to do for the Skyrim wiki, but no one's stopping anyone from asking for a new quest page or from editing this quest page. Though personally i think that both quests are related. Everyone runs into Degaine or gets referred to him in a tavern, and only a few actually manage to steal the statue without interacting with NPC's inside. It is also possible to actually kill all the sisters inside while doing Degaine quest, thus preventing you from starting The Heart of Dibella, which kinda proves the point that quests should be related somehow. --Electricitydrive 00:21, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Degaine said the priestesses were "all women and keeping to themselves," this is definitely a reference of the session of the priestesses discussing the new Sybil. After you've got caught, you have the dialogue of "the statue is mine," right before you are tasked to find the Sybil and failed the thievery. --223.18.170.179 10:48, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I believe Bethesda here assumed that everyone is trying to sneak around in heavy armor, without perks and generally playing a warrior - wannabe thief hybrid or something. I totally "failed" to get noticed the 1st time in, completed the quest and only after checking here i learned about the other possibilities... Yes Bethesda tried to connect these (two?) quests, the dialog options are there and everything but they really should have done the sneaking around part a lot harder. Not to mention that even if i had get caught in the first place, i would probably tab out the conversation and reload at once without checking the possibilities, in order to retry, cause i am roleplaying a thief character and in this case, getting caught for any kind of crime feels like dying to me 92.118.183.145 22:54, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

() I found the connection between the two quests questionable as well, but I think they are related in some way. Sure, you can sneak in and steal the statue for Degaine and deliver it. I also heard rumors that the Heart quest can be completed after that, BUT: The fact that there is a similar statue to be found inside Broken Redoubt Tower (seems like a replacement, so you can finish both the Heart and Degaine in one go), and the fact that if you complete the Heart quest without talking to Degaine, he will loose the objective, makes me seriously doubt it. It will take an awful lot of testing but here are a few things to figure out:

  • How will the priestesses react to female characters?
  • Why will they occasionally be hostile regardless of what you do? They were incredibly hostile towards me when I entered without the Degaine objective)
  • What happens if you get the Objective from Degaine, complete the Heart quest as intended, then deliver the new Statue from the tower to Degaine? Will everybody be happy then?

--Krusty 11:00, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

As a female nord Senna says to me
well, you are lovely to look at, and there's so many things I could teach you, but I'm afraid the temple isn't taking in new students. The sisters are communing with Dibella. They can't be disturbed. You'll have to come back another time.
I am curious as to what she wants to teach me! I pick-pocketed her key and went into the inner sanctum. The girls in there where also nice to me and told me to speak with the mother (Hamal) who then sent me to find a girl. No one was hostile.
also the statue from the tower is just a normal statue of dibella that you can find in many locations, the one for the quest is slightly different. Kimi the Elf 06:43, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
"How will the priestesses react to female characters?" - It depends, but I doubt gender matters.
"Why will they occasionally be hostile regardless of what you do?" - They won't "regardless of", but...
  • "They were incredibly hostile" because they're bugged. If you walk up to them WITHOUT the statue, they tell you to wait and "the Mother (Hamal) will deal with you". You have two options: "Okay" and "Ima kill you all". Go with "Okay", and they still act like you chose the hostile option.
  • Walk up to them WITH the statue, and it'll be Hamal who speaks, and the quest will do what it's supposed to do.
Aliana 03:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
And, doing both is trivial. Steal the statue. As soon as you do that, you'll see the other two priestesses get up and come towards you, but now their broken conversation is disabled because you took the statue, so there's no problem. Sneak out past Hamal. Sell the statue. Return to the temple, talk to Hamal, go fetch the Sybil.
That said, the intent looks very much like you "should" be caught on the way out and "fail" Degaine's part the same way you fail The Horn Of Jurgen Windcaller. There's some very obvious scripting going on to change "stuff" once you pick up the statue. My guess is Hamal is the one who's supposed to home in on you, with her auto-starting "what do you think you're doing?" conversation: the theft itself looks like a fetchquest that got turned into something More Important at the last minute and just never got any proper testing. Aliana 03:35, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

() These definitely seem like two quests intertwined as one with two separate objectives. Would be of interest to experiment with it to see if you can actually complete both. I ran through this on one save avoiding the priestesses and turning the statue in. The quest Heart of Dibella never started for that course of action. As such I'd say its definitely two quests as you can complete it without ever having the Dibella quest actually start. --Bwross 13:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Another point to note is that when you're caught even after retrieving the statue but before delivering to the begger, the objective fails. --Joshua.yathin.yu 09:18, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
If you start the quest for Sanguine you wake up in the Temple of Dibella and after breaking in into Inner Sanctum you activate the Dibella Quest. So you don't have to talk to Degaine whatsoever. So I think it is misguiding to include him into Dibella Quest. And yes you would fail his quest if contacted by the Priestess inside. But this is just one way not another. He has a separate quest which may be failed but the Dibella quest itself doesn't depend on Deagaine's quest. For example, in my plays I first steal the Statue, get money, and then return to the priestess to get the Dibella one.--89.23.163.234 12:03, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

() I started this quest after being dumped here from A Night To Remember. When I went down into the inner sanctum there was an option to say 'The statue is mine!". I had no idea what it was talking about so I ignored that option. It seemed to be aggressive and they all seemed fairly upset at a male Argonian. I accepted the quest from Hamal, and continued poking around. Found the statue, and thinking of the previous dialogue option I stole it. Now I'm wondering what will happen if I complete this quest, since I haven't activated Degaine's quest at all. Perhaps I can complete both, I'm going to find out and report back. — Unsigned comment by 190.233.90.205 (talk) at 21:30 on 3 November 2012‎

The unsigned poster never reported back. You can complete both. They're definitely two separate quests, you can complete Degaine's quest if you have good Sneak without ever triggering The Heart of Dibella, and you can trigger Dibella just by blundering into the Sanctum. --Morrolan (talk) 14:25, 1 September 2013 (GMT)
I agree that these should be two separate quests and listed on here as such. I have complete the Degaine quest without starting the Heart of Dibella quest. I then returned and the only difference was I didn't have to pick the lock at the top of the stairs when I returned. Completing Degaine quest relies on good sneak, muffle and a couple of invisibility potions. Biffa (talk) 14:04, 11 October 2013 (GMT)

[edit] "Talk to Degaine' quest.

to complete the misk quest "Talk to Degaine". just type setstage T01Intro 20

then the misc quest that remained will disappear. — Unsigned comment by Buriring (talkcontribs) at 15:03 on 26 December 2011

Not sure if this is the statue in question, but I found a Dibella Statue in Brinewater Grotto during a Thieves Guild quest just before talking to Degaine. So I already had the statue, but this didn't appear in the dialogs. But there was something about this in Hamal's dialog, something like "The statue is mine!" or similar. After accepting the quest to free Frolji, I found yet another Dibella Statue in the Broken Towers... Weird. — Unsigned comment by 85.66.211.226 (talk) at 01:08 on 20 January 2012
There is no indication of who added the comments above, but I have a 'Speak to Degaine' entry in my miscellaneous objectives despite a) having originally successfully stolen the statue and returned it to Degaine and b) having subsequently re-visited the inner sanctum, spoken to Hamal and started the Sybil quest (but not yet visited Karthwasten to pursue it further). However, entering the setstage command does not remove 'Speak to Degaine' from my journal, in fact it seems to add it again (since it re-displays on screen) and I cannot find any other stage number for the T01Intro quest that works to get rid of that entry. Is anyone else able to test this at various points in the quests (I completed the original objective more than 100 hours of game time ago so I've little chance of going back)?? CessPitts 09:42, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I have the same issue as you, SetStage T01Intro 20 DOES NOT remove 'Speak to Degaine' from my journal too.TecknoTot 06:21, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I also have the same problem as the above two, and so far I can't get rid of it in any way. — Unsigned comment by 71.50.180.62 (talk) at 01:43 on 27 February 2012
SetStage T01Intro 20 also did NOT remove 'Speak to Degaine' from my journal :p It's driving me crazy XD — Unsigned comment by 8.26.243.94 (talk) at 06:32 on 1 March 2012
Hello, fellow gamers. I had exact problem and here´s the fix I´ve tested and it works. SetStage T01Intro 20 really DOES NOT help. You have to use commands "SetStage T01Intro 10" following with "SetObjectiveCompleted T01Intro 10 1". This will remove uncompletable misc quest "Speak to Degaine" from your journal. Hope it helped. Victory or Sovngarde! :-) — Unsigned comment by 88.212.42.101 (talk) at 18:28 on 26 March 2012
use like he said, SetStage T01Intro 10 : SetObjectiveCompleted T01Intro 10 1 worked for me, this day.

Well 88.212.42.101 is 100% correct. My in-game experience in this situation confirms what all the others have said about the previous instructions not working and this one working correctly. Consequently I have edited the note to reflect the correct procedure under version 1.6.89.0.6. Kalevala 02:58, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Moved from article

Two notes, I simply can't understand the meaning of:

  • If you are wearing the Daedric Ebony Mail when Hamal approaches to speak with you, you will be attacked and the quest will not be given. Just unequip the armor before entering the Inner Sanctum and you will be able to speak to Hamal and receive the quest.
  • If you bring Enmon (the father of Fjotra) along, Enmon will attack Logrolf when Logrolf's binds are cut. The player's follower will help Enmon, killing Logrolf when he is busy having a speech with you. This applies to both cases where you are seeing Logrolf in the same cell with Fjotra, or you just bring Enmon along and, in some other place, stumble across Logrolf. If they are really in the same cell, you should take the father and daughter to the temple first before freeing Logrolf. You can talk to Logrolf and tell him who sent you. When he asks for releasing, tell him to stay, and he will curse you as a milk drinker. But at least, he keeps his life for a moment longer this way.

--Krusty 16:57, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

The first one means "Boethiah's Quest Reward", which you basically shouldn't wear anywhere, ever, as far as I can tell: it "attacks" NPCs (like Flame Cloak etc) so I doubt there are even a dozen quests total that it doesn't potentially break. Aliana 02:20, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Found a statue

I have no idea if this statue can be used for the quest, but i found a statue of dibella near Deekus in hela's folly. The statue is inches from his bed. is this statue usable for the quest? or is this just an accident and is only in my game? (i swear it's there) — Unsigned comment by 108.80.249.152 (talk)

There are lots of these, I currently have 5, however they are different from the one in the quest. Kimi the Elf 23:01, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
The one in Hela's Folly is a Dibella Statue and not one of the two quest items called Statue of Dibella. --Alfwyn 23:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Avoid fighting through the tower

It's possible to skip fighting the whole way through the tower. You can climb up the side of the hill on horse or come down from the top of the mountain and reach the landing that leads to the tower with the prison. 174.100.234.191 03:37, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Special dialogue between father and daughter

you can return back to town and talk to the father to give the two a chance to see goodbye.

You do this while the girl is following you of course.

I have no experience with editing a wiki so I will leave someone with the know-how to add this in if they so desire.

24.246.152.183 02:40, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Reward from Degaine

It might be worth mentioning that although the amount of gold given to you by Degaine is levelled, it is still a paltry amount - I was given 150 gold at level 25 - considering the sneaking and lockpicking/pickpocketing involved. --Reka 13:00, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

I got the same amount at level 49. Suspect that it isn't leveled at all, though I have no proof. 67.238.190.140 04:30, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Confirmed in the CK. It's a flat 150 gold, no matter what. Robin Hoodtalk 21:24, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Enmon is dead

Many hours before starting this quest, I was in Karthwasten and attacked by TWO dragons! Being as low-level as I was, everyone in the town died. Now, a few dozen levels later, I seem to be paying the price for that. I'm at the stage "Find the future Sybil of Dibella". I'm in Karthwasten, but there is no quest marker on the world map or local map and it seems I won't be able to continue with the quest because I cannot speak with the Sybil's father, Enmon, owing to his current state of not being alive.

I'm going to go to Broken Redoubt Tower and see if she's there anyway at this point in the quest or if speaking with her father first is absolutely necessary.

Note: As soon as the quest to retrieve the new Sybil is given, she will be at Broken Tower Redoubt and you may proceed directly there to get her, bypassing Karthwasten altogether. Enmon being dead does not prevent the completion of this quest.

76.115.116.14 00:12, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Priestess of Dibella will attack on sight bug

I've had this bug and it's really annoying me. I'm trying to help the priestesses get the new sybil, but for some reason, when I do get caught by the priestesses, the mother comes to talk, but all of the sudden, the dialogue gets severed off and they just attack suddenly. I didn't press any button and they still attack. Now, I can't do this quest, but help degaine steal the statue. Does anyone know what's going on? — Unsigned comment by 130.157.91.157 (talk) at 12:13 on 10 March 2012

It's some kind of dialog bug where you only have a microsecond to see her dialog, then she acts as if you've ignored/backed out of the conversation. What worked for me was sneaking up to the edge of the priestesses and then using a Scroll of Calm. The lesser priestess caught me and then wandered off after the high priestess responded. Without an upset lesser priestess right there, she talked to me normally.--68.73.195.234 04:35, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Adding to this: the bug is caused by really faulty scripts on the lesser priestesses. You can avoid it if you disable Orla through the console, and then enable her after accepting the quest to find the Sybil. Apparently, stealing the statue also works (see above). 108.3.188.161 03:12, 19 July 2014 (GMT)

[edit] Also bugged (ps3)

I already had three statues locked away (can't recall their original locations) before I met degaine or entered the temple but after talking to degaine I still went to steal the one located in the temple..I was caught an given the opertunity to redeem myself by starting the main quest but I'm not sure what went wrong...the stolen statue was removed an the drums rolled with the quest heading as normal but when I got outside and checked it was gone instead I have "speak to degaine" in the miscellaneous section. When I do there is just two options "give him a coin" or "ask about the statue" to wich he replies "what's to know?, just get in get it and give it to me" (or the likes) but now if I go back into the room with the sisters they just hand me over to the mother who instantly starts a fray?? Frustrating!!! This now makes four miscellaneous quests that I cannot seem to finish (2xcollect bounty from skald, 1xkill bandits at valthiem and now this) Richo-gong EDIT: ...I have returned with one of my other statues but it makes no difference Richo-gong. — Unsigned comment by 220.244.178.69 (talk) at 14:24 on 27 April 2012

[edit] Game glitched and now trying to fix :s !!!!!!!!!

Okay so I did degaine's crap in Markarth, I went and stole the statue and all that. So after, I was at the silver blood inn asking the innkeeper for work, and he mentioned that degaine got thrown out of the temple and I should go talk to him. So now I have this "speak to degaine" mission in my quest log that WILL NOT GO AWAY. everytime I speak to degaine, he ethier asks me for money or a drink. But nothing related to the quest. And now I'm furious because I don't want it in my quest log, and it will not disappear :s has anyone else encountered this problem And maybe resolved it? :/ I need help cause I don't want This stupid mission in my quest log anymore!! Thanks everyone!! — Unsigned comment by 184.145.121.151 (talk) at 16:41 on 18 May 2012

[edit] Is Logrolf's appearance actually a bug?

In the "Bugs" section of this article, it notes that Logrolf may be captive in the same cell as Fjotra if you've started the House of Horrors quest. This is true. But I'm not sure why this is classified as a bug. If the map marker is telling you that Logrolf is in that cell, and you find him there, then that's what is supposed to happen. Having both of them in the same cell doesn't affect either quest; if anything, it actually makes things easier for the player, allowing you to complete two quests at once. Maybe this comment about Logrolf should be moved to "Notes" instead? --dukesilver 76.182.13.146 09:45, 16 October 2012 (GMT)

[edit] Dragon Bug - Moved from Article

If a dragon attacks Markarth when you arrive, and you enter the temple with Fjotra before you kill it, you won't receive the reward: you won't be able to pray at the altar, and when you leave the temple the quest will be complete.

I'm moving this bug from the article because it seems like a one-off. Can anybody verify this? --Xyzzy Talk 03:44, 6 November 2012 (GMT)

The one time I killed a dragon before entering I remember having problems receiving the blessing if I recall correctly.--Catmaniac66 (talk) 03:48, 9 December 2012 (GMT)

[edit] Bug mentioned earlier

So it appears I'm not the only problem with the bug. I think I can elaborate however. If the mother reaches you before your chat with the first priestess ends it will trigger the bug. Best way I have of avoiding it is sprinting up to her, mashing A, and getting through it as fast as possible. I may add this (with better wording obviously) later with a VN tag.--Catmaniac66 (talk) 03:50, 9 December 2012 (GMT)

[edit] Having the statue helps...

I've found that after retrieving the statue and then talking to Hamal this bug is usually fixed. Just make sure you have a calm spell or the voice of the emperor power.


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