Tamriel talk:Cyrodiil

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I do not have the strategy guide, does anyone know the approximate square mileage of Cyrodil?

• lore wise or Oblivion?, Oblivion is something like 2 or 3

I heard somewhere around 16 or 17 sq. miles in real life.64.131.15.50 17:12, 2 October 2007 (EDT)

16 square miles seems to be the generally accepted figure. This article on xbox.com has quite a bit of detail. --Rpeh^Talk 03:14, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Proper grammar

I'm pretty sure that, after taking a college level English class, the plural "cities" works better in the context of the main features. Inverting the sentence, you wouldn't say city are because that doesn't make any sense. The word "features" refers to multiple nouns, and, without the comma, the sentence would read "The main features of the region are the city of Anvil and Kvatch." So, the word "city" must be made plural to "cities" to make more sense with the sentence. The phrase "a major port city" is a subordinate clause and has to effect on what makes "city" plural or not. So, therefore, the word "city" should be "cities" QED. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Penguin0719 (talk • contribs).}

Okay, let's break it down then, since we obviously disagree here, and I'll explain why I changed it. This is the sentence we're working with, as it currently stands in the article:

...the main features of the region are the city of Anvil, a major port city, and the inland city of Kvatch.

Now, if the sentence said "the main features of the region are the city of Anvil, a major port city, and Kvatch," you would probably want to use the plural "cities" instead. However, since the original phrasing said "the city of Anvil...and the inland city of Kvatch," that particular sentence needs the singular "city." You wouldn't say "My favorite colors are the colors blue and the color red," you would say "My favorite colors are the color blue and the color red." (Okay, to be honest, nobody would really say it like that, but that's not the point!) Unless the sentence is more drastically rephrased, it's fine how it is. --Eshe^talk20:26, 13 February 2008 (EST)

I agree with Eshe. The phrase in question is "city of Anvil;" "city of Kvatch" is a separate phrase. Each use of "city" refers to a single place and therefore should be singular. Penguin's simplified version of the sentence is not equivalent to the full sentence, which destroys the chain of logic. --Nephele^Talk 22:37, 13 February 2008 (EST)