Tamriel talk:Imperial
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Soo.. I still hold that there is insufficient evidence that Imperials are connected to Romans at all. More importantly, I think you are taking away the player's right to decide for himself on any human life connections. Which is important because, Cyrodil has a rich history all of it's own, A world completely removed from Earth.
- There is more than enough evidence that the Imperials are based on the Roman Empire. They all have Roman names, first of all. Their armor is similar to that worn by the Romans, there are many parallels with Roman history and culture, and if that weren't enough, the developpers have been quoted as saying that the Imperials were intentionally based on the Romans. And yes, the Bretons are based on the French. They have French names, and hey, they're called "Bretons", which is a word used in real life to refer to people from Brittany, see Brittany, a province in northern France. And yes, the Nords are based on Scandinavians. They're from the cold northern climates, they have Norse-inspired names, they even look Norse. Also note that we say "based on". There's a big difference between saying that the Imperials ARE Romans and the Imperials are BASED ON the Romans. Obviously there are going to be differences, but only a fool would insist that there is no connection whatsoever when the evidence is so blatantly obvious. --TheRealLurlock Talk 12:40, 17 September 2007 (EDT)
- You're right that Cyrodiil and the world of the Elder Scrolls has its own history but it's quite clear that it draws much from various aspects of Earth and its history. It would be entirely accurate, for instance, to suggest that the minotaurs in the game come from the Greek legend of Theseus and the Labyrinth [1]. In fact, Imps, Trolls, Will-o-the-Wisps, Spriggans, Ogres, Goblins, Skeletons, Zombies, Ghosts, Wraiths and Lichs all come from Earth mythology.
- The assertion that there are correlations between Imperials and Romans, Bretons and French (you could add Nords and Scandinavians) seems entirely valid. Whilst it's an Asterix-style stereotype to say that all Roman names ended in "us" for men and "i" or "a" for women, it's not too far wrong as anybody who learned Latin from Caecillius and Metalla will testify. The name of the river flowing through Rome finds a role as the first name of the greatest Imperial hero, Tiber Septim. There are similar coincidences for Bretons.
- FOUR different editors have now reverted your edits. Please consider that this shows support for the idea that the - perfectly reasonable - information remains on the page.
- --RpehTalk 12:49, 17 September 2007 (EDT)
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- Thank you for enlightening me. That is something that I can accept as a just resolution to this argument. The sheer number of people who wordlessly change my edits back to the way it was.. doesn't really matter. This info is beautiful and should stay in the talk page.
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- Actually, there are similarities between the Imperial race and the Wikipedia:Aryan race, the characteristics and appearance are very similar. But the similarities with Romans are more striking. Also, Aryan race has now been tainted by the Nazis, much like the Swastika symbol. --Mankar Camoran•T•C•E• 14:30, 16 January 2008 (EST)
- Also, from what I know, the Romans were Aryans. --Mankar Camoran•T•C•E• 14:37, 16 January 2008 (EST)
- Actually, there are similarities between the Imperial race and the Wikipedia:Aryan race, the characteristics and appearance are very similar. But the similarities with Romans are more striking. Also, Aryan race has now been tainted by the Nazis, much like the Swastika symbol. --Mankar Camoran•T•C•E• 14:30, 16 January 2008 (EST)
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[edit] Romans or Greek?
Hi I saw that it stood that the empire might referre to the roman empire but then, in oblivion, the imperial guards where wearing an armour looking like the older greek, you know, their helms are just like the once that the greek warriors and some of the greek gods used.
And didn't the romans copy a lot from the greeks? Just a little thought... --Goblin lair 18.26, 14 july 2008

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