Lore talk:Wars

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Contents 1 Deletion of the "Daedric Invasion" 1.1 Changed the title 2 Bosmer/Khajiit war 3 Establish a structure? 4 Move? 5 Camoran Usurper 6 War of the First Council 7 Wrong Four Score War

[edit] Deletion of the "Daedric Invasion"

"The Daedric Invasion" isn't a war, and hasn't to this point been treated as such by Bethesoft, which makes it non-canonical, and as such should be deleted. - The Old Ye Bard

I agree that it certainly doesn't seem to be cited as a proper war, though it may be perceived as such in the future. That said, it was a conflict - between the Empire and the Daedra army of Mehrunes Dagon. As the title of the page is "Wars and Conflicts" I think it's suitable under the premise of being a major conflict. Although it may not be in the traditional sense of the term, in that it wasn't a battle between nations, the Daedric Invasion was a struggle between two opposing forces over the hegemonious rule of Tamriel (and the reestablishment of Daedra rule and presence in the world). --Emperor Moo 06:57, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

I think that the Daedric invasion fits the definition of a war perfectly. Two seperate, sovereign forces fought a series of small to large scale battles with one another over cities and other valuable sites. -MasterofSiege

[edit] Changed the title

I have changed the title of "Daedric Invasion of Tamriel" to "Oblivion Crisis." My reasons for this are, after finishing the Oblivion main quest and talking to the various citizens of Cyrodiil, they will sometimes refer to it as "the Oblivion Crisis" -- both words specifically capitalized, making it the proper name of the events, at least in common usage in Cyrodiil at the time of the game's end. As there are no other official sources, or an official name given by the Elder Council or Bethesda, I think it's safe to assume that "Oblivion Crisis" is the best name to use for the events of TES:IV. 74.132.208.242 23:50, 12 August 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Bosmer/Khajiit war

Don't know the name of this war (or these wars?), but it's referenced in A Dance in Fire. Anybody know of a more reliable source of info about this particular conflict? --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 00:14, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Also the War of the Blue Divide, between the Altmer and Bosmer is mentionned briefly. Any other source for that? --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 00:19, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Establish a structure?

While I'm here...would anyone object to me putting the wars and conflicts in chronological order? Right now they're a tad muddled; the Daedric Invasion is, as of now, the latest major incident yet it sits in the middle. It would make for easier reading methinks. --Emperor Moo 07:00, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

I've gone ahead and restrucured the events in chronological order. Could still use expanding though, I'll see if I can't find some more facts about the vague regional conflicts. --Emperor Moo 05:59, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Move?

I think that this article should be moved to Tamriel.Aldage 17:25, 4 October 2007 (EDT)

What exactly do you mean? The article is already in the Tamriel namespace, and it seems to be appropriately located. --Eshe^talk18:15, 4 October 2007 (EDT)

Oh, well don't I feel smart. Sorry for this question.Aldage 19:54, 4 October 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Camoran Usurper

Would this be a proper place to mention the Camoran Usurper? --Quill 17:02, 13 February 2008 (EST)

There's already a section on him here, but it would be worth mentioning the war, I suppose. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 05:41, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Oh, that's what I meant. I should have expressed myself more clearly. --Quill 06:01, 14 February 2008 (EST)

OK, I've done some changes and added info about the Camoran Usurper business. I'm really not sure what to call that conflict. Now, the headline just says "The Camoran Usurper's Invasion", which sounds rather awful to me, but it's described in that way in the article on the Usurper (for link, see Rpeh's comment above). I hope someone will come up with a better headline. --Quill 18:08, 14 February 2008 (EST)

[edit] War of the First Council

It was really not a religious war, but a war over the works of Kagrenac tools and the heart of Lorkhan. The Dewer fought against House Daggoth, who at the time were allied with all the other great houses. -Intranetusa

[edit] Wrong Four Score War

The War with Morrowind (1E 2840-920) is actually the Four Score War of Morrowind vs. the Ramen dynasty; the so-labeled Four Score War (2E 816-96) is actually from 862 to 896 (last year of 2E) and is Tiber Septim's conquest of all Tamriel, not just Morrowind. Previously, Morrowind surrendered in 1E 2920 to Reman but he was assassinated and the empire crumbled; later, Tiber tries to rebuild Tamriel and makes a deal with Vivec to conquer the Aldmeri. Sources -> Pocket Guide to the Empire (1st Edition): Hammerfell, The Origin of Cyrus, Intro to Redguard, On Morrowind--the Imperial Province, and 2920--The Last Year of the First Era. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.28.132.73 (talk • contribs) on 28 October 2008.}