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Move over Redirect[edit]

Hey there, a quick request for a move over redirect please, for ON:The Lightless Oubliette (place)ON:The Lightless Oubliette and ON:The Black Forge (place)ON:The Black Forge. This is in line with the discussion on disambiguation importance from September 2014. I've moved the book page out of the name, but due to the page already existing, I can't move the place page in. Thanks! --Enodoc (talk) 14:18, 6 March 2015 (GMT)

Done. —Legoless (talk) 15:03, 6 March 2015 (GMT)
Another please, for ON:The Bastard's Tomb (place)ON:The Bastard's Tomb. Thanks! --Enodoc (talk) 20:43, 29 April 2015 (GMT)
1Yes Done. Jeancey (talk) 20:54, 29 April 2015 (GMT)
And another, por favor. ON:Drublog ClanON:Drublog. "Clan" is not part of the faction's name, so shouldn't be there. I thought I could do this myself, but since the redirect has a history that doesn't work. --Enodoc (talk) 21:46, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Done. —Legoless (talk) 21:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Warning Required?[edit]

Does Minor Edits deserve an official warning for what he said about an IP? DRAGON GUARD(TALK) 19:22, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

While the language is less than ideal, considering what the IP did, I think it's not an unfair characterization. So, I'd say no on the official warning, but I can understand your concern. Robin Hood  (talk) 21:02, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
So "it's not an unfair characterization"? The language could have resulted in an all-out war and provoked the IP. I still lay the blame with Minor Edits. The site will not benefit from name-calling. Show of hands - do we want name-callers or friendly editors? Being confrontational is not the way to approach someone on the wiki, even if they are adding "nonsense or obscenities"', advertising guilds on "the official guild page", or clearing out the guild bank in ESO. If it was because of the guild bank issue, it was completely unnecessary to bring it up on the wiki. I know how actions can have consequences, but sometimes the consequences are not always bad ones. The "good" consequence here may be that he won't get a warning/block, and we won't lose a very valuable editor. What do you think? DRAGON GUARD(TALK) 21:27, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
You asked if a warning was called for and I gave you my opinion. Asking for a show of hands is a form of forum-shopping. If anyone has objections to what I said, I'm sure they'd say so without your asking the same question a second time, hoping for a different answer from someone else. As for an all out war, that's rather unlikely. The IP demonstrated bad faith in stealing from the guild bank; it's not undue for that information to be posted to the wiki so that guild members and guild leaders are aware of the issue. Robin Hood  (talk) 03:28, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't intend to give ME a warning over this. --AKB Talk Cont Mail 03:53, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
So Minor Edits used the language he did because he was provoked? Is it still breaking the etiquette policy or will it be overlooked? Put it this way - we don't want it to become a habit. As for the "guild bank", I don't play ESO, thus am not familiar with them. DRAGON GUARD(TALK) 07:08, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Put simply, nobody's perfect—minor, infrequent infractions can be overlooked as long as the person is otherwise in good standing. As for the term "guild bank", while I don't play ESO either, I understand that it's a shared resource where people who are playing for a specific guild (aka, team) can deposit money or goods that they may not need, while people from the same guild who do need them can then take those items or money. This process can be abused and people will sometimes join a guild for the sole purpose of taking as much as they can, while not giving anything back. That's my understanding of what's going on, but as I say, I don't play ESO, so if I've gotten anything wrong here, anyone who does play ESO please correct me. Robin Hood  (talk) 07:29, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Yep, that's essentially the way it works. Anyone who is a contributor here is invited to join our in-game guild for chatting, playing together, trading, and sharing resources. The Guild Bank is the medium for sharing resources, and can have up to 500 item stacks in it. It seems the IP has taken everything from the Guild Bank without exchanging it for something else, and then quit the Guild. Essentially, they have stolen all the items that were there and there's no way to get them back. Similar things have happened before on PC EU and we adjusted the rank system to address it. --Enodoc (talk) 12:30, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

() Well, I'll give an official apology, at least. I'm sorry for the unnecessary agitation. I was tired, upset, and rather ill when I wrote that. I regretted it immediately. It won't happen again. Insignificant RevisionsThreatsEvidence 14:08, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Your apology is accepted. DRAGON GUARD(TALK) 16:17, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
While the language is unprofessional, I know all too well what it's like dealing with guild thieves, and how frustrating it can be. In Minor's defense, that guy didn't seem too bothered by it, judging by his response (in fact, he seemed like a textbook troll). While profanity directed at other people should be avoided on the wiki, I can't say the guy wasn't deserving of some choice words.
On a side note, is there some way to restrict access to the guild bank among members? I don't play ESO myself, but I know in WoW you can set it up so only members of a certain rank can withdraw items, and access to guild funds is usually restricting to Officers/Lieutenants/Whatever they're called. If similar restrictions are available in ESO, this kind of thing might be prevented in the future. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 21:00, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Yep, that's what we did on PC EU after the third bank heist. —Legoless (talk) 21:15, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Can I change my name?[edit]

I fat fingered my name, I would like a new one.

Can I have Kelvar, rather than Kelar? — Unsigned comment by Kelar (talkcontribs) at 04:36 on October 5, 2015

The wiki software allows us to move you from one user to another, but that would actually be more effort, and still leave the name Kelar in use (sort of), so it's easiest if you just create the new account and forget about this one. Generally speaking, we only move accounts if they have a number of edits to their name, or something else significant in their history, like official warnings or elevated rights. Robin Hood  (talk) 05:27, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

ESO:Orsinium DLC[edit]

The ESO:Orsinium DLC is available on the PTS server and I've done a bit of pre-release data mining for those interested.

If you are looking for specific data/files let me know. -- Daveh (talk) 14:03, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for these! Having an explore through them now. --Enodoc (talk) 19:43, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
I've updated the ESO Maps with 100 or so new/updated maps and will be updating them with locations/links over the next few days. -- Daveh (talk) 14:45, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
While we're at it, could the "Mundus" map be renamed to "The Aurbis", as it appears in-game? I changed the displayed name but it still shows as "Mundus" on the list. Plus, the new zone's name is Wrothgar, not Orsinium. --Vordur Steel-Hammer (TINV1K) 19:52, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Do a reload of the map and your world name change should update (seems to be a display bug). I'll be updating the Orsinium maps today hopefully and will fix locations to match their in-game name. -- Daveh (talk) 12:17, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Hey Dave, according to maps.diff there are 9 changed maps in addition to the 70+ new maps. Would you be able to upload those as well? Thanks! --Enodoc (talk) 18:27, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Done! Added to the same maps zip file above. -- Daveh (talk) 21:09, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

AKB Leaving[edit]

Hey, I'm going to not be in a position to do anything for the UESP for quite a while. While I'll return someday, some rights need to be passed off:

  • IRC ownership (Robin's a current owner, but we need an active admin or patroller in there)
  • Social media management (I've ended up as the only user who has updated most of them in quite a while, someone else needs to do this)

We need volunteers for this, please. --AKB Talk Cont Mail 04:16, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Oh no! It's going to be really lonely around here without you, and I'm sure the wiki won't run quite as well, but I understand that we all have our own obligations. I hope things go alright with you, and I can't wait to see you return! Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 22:28, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Sorry to hear that, but I know how it goes. Hope to see you back soon. I would love to help out however I can, but I'm in a similar position, with pretty limited free time. Insignificant RevisionsThreatsEvidence 19:35, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Unused Faction-Rank Categories[edit]

Since I've been working with our {{Faction}} template lately, I'm noticing that our Unused Categories have a lot of faction-rank categories that are empty. It could be argued that they nevertheless serve a purpose, in that you can click Next/Previous to iterate through each rank, but I think that information is better found on the relevant faction pages themselves. Is there any reason I shouldn't delete the empty categories and then, where necessary, re-link appropriately (e.g., Category:Bloodmoon-Factions-East Empire Company-StewardCategory:Bloodmoon-Factions-East Empire Company-Negotiator)? Since unused categories qualify for speedy deletion, I thought I'd ask before I just go ahead and delete them en masse. Robin Hood  (talk) 21:11, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm not really sure why those faction categories even have a navbar. If it's empty, delete it. —Legoless (talk) 13:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I got busy on another project today, but I'll go ahead and do that tomorrow then. Robin Hood  (talk) 07:45, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I've cleaned that whole list up a fair bit. I've left a few Online ones, since I know nothing about them, so someone with ESO experience will have to decide if they should be deleted or what should happen to them. I've similarly left a whole bunch of Tamriel Rebuilt factions under the assumption that they'll be populated later on as well. Robin Hood  (talk) 22:36, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Bruma on Skyrim's map[edit]

It has already been brougth up twice, so I figured I'd post it here: There's a falsely placed Bruma on our Skyrim map. -- SarthesArai Talk 13:11, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Well, that's just bizarre! That was actually supposed to be the side door to Dead Crone Rock but it had been updated with all of Bruma's data from the Oblivion map. There's no way to know whether that was a system glitch or if one of the Cartographers somehow massively changed it, or a combination of both (i.e., one of the Cartographers changing it but a system glitch updating it with the wrong data). One way or another, though, it's back where it belongs now, with the correct data for name, marker icon, etc. Robin Hood  (talk) 22:13, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

ESO:Orsinium DLC Release[edit]

Now that the ESO:Orsinium DLC is out I've uploaded the full dumps of various image/data files again:

I've updated the map tiles and item icons already and am working on updating the items/skills database. If you are looking data/files in particular from Orsinium let me know. -- Daveh (talk) 19:16, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Hey Dave, thanks for these. Just wondering whether the diffs are diffs from the Orsinium PTS upload or diffs from the previous Live upload (Imperial City). Thanks! --Enodoc (talk) 23:26, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Oh, the diffs are from the last major update (1.7, Imperial City). If you need diffs from the PTS upload I did let me know (there don't seem to be too many changes at a glance). -- Daveh (talk) 02:43, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I've updated the raw data items/sets on esoitem.uesp.net. Note that I've only updated "new" items (items with ID >= 64468) to save a few days of mining time. If you notice any item that has incorrect stats let me know. I'll update all the "old" items as time permits in the next few weeks. -- Daveh (talk) 00:48, 12 November 2015 (UTC)