User talk:Kiz

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Question.

Hi can I ask how you are able to edit the page for Mikrul Gauldurson? I tried afew days ago to write a page for each brother but I was just redirected somewhere else and couldnt seem to edit them. Kimi the Elf 20:22, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

A never mind, I typically found out just after asking! Kimi the Elf 20:33, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, i'm presume you found the little link in the top right then :) --Kiz ^{·•· Talk·•·Contribs ·•· Mail ·•·} 20:57, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Images

Thanks for fixing Media:SR-quest-Purity.jpg, Kiz. I am still learning the standards here. Pics should be in 4:3 ratio?-RedKnight 20:08, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem! I'm doing a batch of them at the moment. All images (but not npcs) should be in 4:3. NPCs should be in a 1:1 (or square) ratio. I'm going to ask before posting - do you know all of the naming conventions we use on wiki? --kiz ^talk_email 20:12, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Hiya. Hmm well, now I see there is a standard and can compare similar images to try to get it right. Is there a page that explains the standards? Thanks -RedKnight 20:14, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Help:Images is the best one - if a bit long winded. But its all there, i'd advise reading down to "Adding images to pages" after that you already know about! --kiz ^talk_email 20:18, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Can I borrow...

I was wondering if you'd allow me to use your profile page as a template for my own. I could just have a boring white page and rattle on about nothing useful, or I could have one similar in style to yours and still rattle on about nothing useful ^^ Draconeo 14:55, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Feel free! Just be warned its not as simple as it may look if your not familiar with code :) --kiz ^talk_email 14:56, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't imagine it would be, but I'll spend some time on it and hopefully not get my "Writing to be edited mercilessly" on my own userpage lol. Thanks :3 Draconeo 15:00, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

It's very hard to actually make someone else edit your user page - just dont be offensive/obscene and don't put any userboxes stating your are an Admin/Patroller/Mentorr etc. and you'll be fine. Also, if your going to put images on there that aren't already on the site please check the Copyright and Ownership page for what is, and isn't, allowed on the site --kiz ^talk_email 15:11, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Hope it's not too bad :P You can see how much I really did pilfer XD. But thanks again :3--Draconeo01:12, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Possible Beacon Locations

Hey, thanks for your latest edit to that section of the Break of Dawn page. There were a lot less locations on the list when I first made it into a table, but all the later additions were making it ridiculously long. I didn't really know how to address it though, and this works pretty well. Thanks! :) Alphabetface 23:40, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

It's alright :) I was at a loss for a bit, I can't split the list evenly. Do you happen to know if thats all of the locations? --kiz ^talk_email 18:12, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

I've been watching the page since I first added the list, and there's now about three times as many locations listed as there was then. I'm beginning to think that the beacon can be found almost anywhere except out in the wilderness, but I really have no idea. I play on the Xbox, and I don't really know anything about the CK, so I have no way of finding out for sure. If it's something like "any random location which contains a boss chest" or something like that, maybe we should just add a note to the page which details the criteria for what locations are possible, rather than keeping the ridiculously long list of known locations. The list could be moved to the discussion page after doing this, so it still exists somewhere. But, I don't really know how the game determines when/where the beacon shows up, or how to find out.Alphabetface 00:33, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

To be perfectly honest, it can more or less spawn in every boss chest in existence. Alfwyn looked through the game files yesterday, and came up with a whopping 151 possible locations. It might be easier to list where it won't spawn. --Krusty 00:39, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Krusty. I updated the page based on this info, and moved the existing table to the discussion page. I was wondering if a note should be added about when the beacon appears though. The quest can only be started at level 12, according to the Daedric Quests page. Is that when the beacon can randomly start appearing as well? Alphabetface 01:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Um...

Does this page really belong in the Daggerfall namespace? JW ABCface^◥ 21:34, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm not going to comment on appropriateness for Daggerfall since I haven't played it, but one thing to keep in mind is that pages like that in the more recent games would've gone into Tes3/4/5Mod space. Daggerfall and the other older games don't have a corresponding uber-technical namespace, so it's not unusual to see a couple of more technical articles in their gamespace instead. As I say, I don't know whether that one's really appropriate or not, though my gut says probably not, at a glance. Someone we might want to consult would bePLRDLF...he's sort of our Daggerfall master around here. –Robin Hood↝talk 00:52, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, I don't know anything about Daggerfall at all, so it wasn't the page subject matter being in the Daggerfall namespace that concerned me (especially now that I know that there's no technical namespace for Daggerfall). What concerned me was the way it was written— not quite a 'professional' or 'encyclopedic' style, particular the swear word right smack in the middle of it. But I'll move this discussion to PLR's talk page, thanks for directing me where to go with it. ABCface^◥ 02:22, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Got something

Check this ~ Dwarfmp 12:59, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

[English Accent] Onnit like a car bonnit! [/English Accent] --kiz email 17:16, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Ok I've taken the short time to check out those powers and that perk, seeing as I already knew you were getting it wrong, I just needed to know what was right: the different Dragon Shouts are not in words, unless there are somehow 5, but rather, as I expected, the damage is different. The perk simply negates 50% of any incoming attack except for the player, but I figure that must be noted somewhere on the dragon page. I do know that the dragon page just lists "Fire Breath" at every dragon with that power, but I KNOW they're not all the same fire breath, so that needs to change! But that's got nothing to do with this ~ Dwarfmp 17:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm changing the table style now anyway, didn't like how I had it before. :) --kiz email 17:27, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

IRC Privileges

Just FYI, IRC privileges expire if you don't log on for a long time (I can't find specific info, but I think it's about a month), which is why Alfwyn no longer has privileges. – Robin Hood↝talk19:40, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

I figured it out in the end, I also got Krusty to fix some of the weird (my fault!) Half Op permissions that ABCFace and Skooma had! --kiz email 19:43, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh, good idea! It's funny though, cuz I think we all have odd entries in a way. You should be able to do /cs HOP #uespwiki listand have a list of the half-ops show up, but it doesn't work. Neither do any of the other xOP commands. Before the changes, ABC and Skoomadid show up on the HOP list. <shrugs> Doesn't really matter, though.../cs flags #uespwiki shows a lot more detail. – Robin Hood↝talk 02:46, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I presumed that we were all set up that way because of the flags that were recieved, since /cs flags #uespwiki is much better than the than the other listing commands. I thought whilst I had Krusty i'd poke him about it :D --kiz email 14:49, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Skyrim:Monsters

There is not set policy on "one image per creature" on that page. As you can tell from other pages, this is a normal and accepted practice. Your multiple reverts serve no discernible purpose. Please re-add the images. Thanks. elliot (talk) 21:51, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I was under the impression (since its such a minimal page and not at all in the style of those that you pointed out) that it was supposed to be a brief summary of those, and that any seperate creature would have its own heading, and that those listed as variations were variations with very similar models. I would not consider Wisps to be a variation of Wisp Mothers per example and thus I believe it should have a different header. --kiz email 21:58, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Actually, it's in the same exact style of the other pages because they're basically the same page but for different games. And as you can tell, obvious differences in appearances should be displayed on the wiki; it's why both images were taken by rpeh. Now, removing the images because you believe they should have a different header is counterproductive. Either add the other header and information to improve the page, or leave it like it is because removing the images hurts the page (it should be worth noting though, that the wisp and wispmother are documented under same header, as are the spriggan and spriggan matron). So, please, re-add them to the page.elliot (talk) 22:03, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm unfortunately running off right now! Permission given to undo, sorry! --kiz email 22:04, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Cookie!

You have been given a cookie! Your dedication and diligence to the wiki has not gone unnoticed. A user has seen the progress you've made, and has given you a cookie because of it. Good work! The user had the following to say: Here is a long overdue treat, in particular for surviving this madness, but also for a gazillion tables and loads of fun along the way. Keep up the good work! --Krusty 16:23, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :D I s'pose the next question is... what next? --kiz email 16:25, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Rights

Request removal of Patroller rights, effective immediatly. As well as Half-Op rights in IRC (even though I may still be there). Thanks! --kiz email 18:24, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Kiz, I'm sorry to hear you're leaving us, and I hope it's just for a short while. If it's all the same to you, I'd prefer to leave your rights in place. If you do come back (and I hope you do!), then we'll have a Patroller back too, and you won't have to go through the whole nomination process again. If you really, really, really want them removed, just say so. Take it easy! eshe^talk 18:28, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I unfortunately don't intend to return, i've also just created some deletions for you to do. I would like my rights to be removed please!--kiz email 18:30, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks AKB! I bid you all farewell! --kizemail

Objectives

Just moving this to the wiki in case anyone else wants to chime in. :) In regards to your comments in this diff, so far, I've been ignoring the "completes all objectives" or "fails all objectives" coding. They could be considered as completing or failing the quest, but I'm not sure how that differs from actually marking the stage as "completes quest" or "fails quest", which are checkboxes that appear in the CK totally separate from the code.

For the time being, I've also been leaving the blank entries that NepheleBot left on smaller pages and not putting the note at the bottom, but I'm kind of leaning towards doing it the way you did in the previous edit, but I'm thinking we should add a parameter to {{Journal Entries}} so that we can ensure the wording and formatting are consistent across the board.

I haven't been marking when objectives are completed since, for the most part, the start of one objective implies the completion of the previous one. That's not true in all cases, of course, but for those where it isn't, it's usually one overarching quest objective plus a bunch of smaller ones, which is fairly easy to figure out from the quest walkthrough. I'm open to changing that, but we'd have to figure out how to format it so it's not confusing...perhaps having different colours for "objective assigned" and "objective completed". (Probably yet another template to handle both cases, rather than constantly reusing Quest Comment...cuz there can never be too many templates. :Þ)

Lastly, if there are no objectives, then you can simply mark it as checked. The "objectives" are correct as written in that there are none, and it says there are none. – Robin Hood↝talk 20:20, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

That parameter would make a nice addition! And, I don't know what the difference is, I was hoping perhaps you knew that :P I've only found one (Chop Wood) where there are no objectives, but I suspect thats because NephBot never edited it (if I recall correctly). I might make a personal note of them in a word.doc if I come across anymore - incase we decide at a later date to include them somehow! --kiz email 16:52, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, if I understand correctly, NepheleBot only created pages where there was either text in a quest stage or a quest objective. Except for very rare cases, anything that doesn't have one of those is likely to be just a quest for coding purposes and not something the player would usually be aware of. Bard's Leap Summit is a straightforward example of where a hidden quest is used, and it might actually be a candidate to consider overriding what NepheleBot did and actually display the quest stages. Something like the Thieves Guild progression is the more common example, though, where several very complex hidden quests and subquests are used and displaying those would be meaningless to anyone but modders and the like. – Robin Hood↝talk 22:12, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Cookie

You have been given a cookie! Your dedication and diligence to the wiki has not gone unnoticed. A user has seen the progress you've made, and has given you a cookie because of it. Good work! The user had the following to say: Also, I have to give you a cookie for all the updating you did after I added the parameter to Journal Entries. Great job! – Robin Hood↝talk 22:12, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Is it bad if I say I was a bit guttered there wasn't more? :P --kiz email 22:25, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

You left the chat before I could thank you for doing the verification on the TG Leveled List, so... Thank you! :) – Robin Hood↝talk 21:29, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

S'alright, you know i'm always looking for something to do! :P And, I only left because of my mother... (damn) or I would of stayed longer :D --kiz email 17:05, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Map Link Question

Hey, so I was wondering how you were able to place those markers on the Whiterun map that were linked to their respective places? I've noticed that the Markarth, Solitude, and Windhelm pages are currently lacking maps so I plan on changing that. So far, the only map for any of those three cities on this site is Windhelm and I would like to add it to the Windhelm page and get to be like the Whiterun map. --Jake-518 (talk) 10:13, 16 February 2013 (GMT)

See the following templates:{{Perk Tree}}, {{Perk Tree Setup}} and {{Image Mark}} for it, though the actual template doc is somewhat confusing you may just want to take a look at what i've already done for pointers. I wish you luck.