User talk:Nephele/Archive-2009-08

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Missing pages[edit]

Hi Nephele, take a look in the wanted pages. Everything from tamriel rebuilt from the queen's cutlass upwards is missing, except hammerfell, vassa and the reckless maiden. I usually take a look in the wanted pages which page is needed most and i create them in that order. So could you restore all the tamriel rebuilt pages including and above the queen's cutlass? Thanks already. There are a couple of pages below that one that are missing but they are all class redirects and they will be easily reproduced, probably much to the dismay of Elliot..Theviking 19:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I've restored all the pages I can at this point. That includes the addition of Nchazdrumn and Tel Onoria. However, for two other places I could only find the description pages, not the full place pages, namely, [[Tes3Mod:Tamriel Rebuilt/Bal Oyra, Keep/Description]], [[Tes3Mod:Tamriel Rebuilt/The Queen's Cutlass/Description]]. Unfortunately, I think you'll need to reconstruct those place pages (as well as all the redirects). Sorry I couldn't help more. --NepheleTalk 05:40, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
A, shame, because the queens cutlass was complete and an example for the Tamriel Rebuilt taverns. I've looked in my history and I can't find it too. Still, thanks for all the pages that you could recover.Theviking 18:08, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Database Restored Using Binlogs[edit]

I believe you used the MySQL binlogs to restore the missing records after the July 19th crash, correct? If so could you create a brief documentation somewhere detailing the process and any "gotchas" you encountered in the process? No rush for this...was just curious and it would be useful for future backup/restores. -- Daveh 20:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for taking care of this, it is greatly appreciated. -Dlarsh(Talk,Contribs) 02:28, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome! I would have done it even if you hadn't pre-bribed me with a cookie ;) And thank you for doing such a good job cleaning up vandalism that you've become a target! --NepheleTalk 03:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
For some disturbing reason, I did get a little excited when I saw that my page had been vandalised. I guess I consider it a bizarre sign that I'm doing something right :). Anyway, thanks again. -Dlarsh(Talk,Contribs) 03:50, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Iptable Rules[edit]

When you setup your bad_ip_list iptable rules did you set it up to save/restore the rule when the server restarts? -- Daveh

MediaWiki and Files[edit]

I apologize for reading too much into your comments about file uploads recently.

I should have realized you didn't mean to be dismissive, but it seemed like that at the time. I don't just edit on this site, and some of the other sites I use have concerns over MediaWiki's file handling. You don't know that, but you do know that I'm a programmer, and one who knows databases pretty well. On this site, we have a "recommended" file limit of 150K. I've been working with JKing on his DOSBox helper (he very kindly acknowledges that) so I know the file he was talking about is ~4.25MB, or roughly 30 times larger than our recommended size. I therefore thought it was worth checking that there would be no problems. My response came from what seemed to be a handwave at my concerns. In retrospect I simply didn't explain myself correctly.

The only thing I would say is that I would hope you know me well enough to know I'm not just posting messages to boost my edit count. On 95% of the server stuff, I'm happy to leave it to you and Dave, since I'll freely admit that I'm out of my depth. When I do post, though, it's because I genuinely feel I have a contribution to make. It doesn't excuse my response but it might help explain it. –rpehTCE 21:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the followup. Let me assure you that there's no reason to worry whether I'm thinking that you're posting to boost your edit count -- that's about the least likely thought to cross my mind ;)
I apologize that my comment could be read as dismissive. I always appreciate your input on server issues (or really on any topic). In this particular case, I was really just confused about what exactly you were suggesting; my overly brief response focussed on the detail I found most puzzling, especially in the context of the rest of the discussion. Also, I hadn't stopped to think about limits other than the 2M PHP limit, and therefore completely overlooked the recommended 150K file size limit (which seems to be generally confusing -- as far as I can tell it's meaningless, and we should perhaps change it to a number with at least some symbolic signficance, such as our recommended maximum size for screenshots, or the average file size necessary to prevent our hard drive from filling up). For what it's worth, MW also has an even more meaningless $wgMaxUploadSize parameter, default value 100 MB, which might be more representative of the file size that the developers think MW can handle. So your choice: MW thinks it's too large, MW thinks it's well below the limit -- or MW doesn't know anything :P
Also, I fully agree that longterm we may need to modify how we handle files -- in particular given Daveh's wishlist, and also given our continuing glitches with image uploads. Perhaps it would be good to start collecting notes (solutions adopted by other websites, problems/limitations of MW, etc.), for example on the File Database Design page. On the other hand, the immediate issue seems to be JKing's single file, in which case we're probably limited to the options available right now. --NepheleTalk 23:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
If you go by anything on the File Database Design page keep in mind it was written years ago when we had just moved to a Wiki based site. I haven't looked at it recently but likely lots of things are outdated/wrong. Its easy enough to increase the upload limit size if necessary. -- Daveh 03:18, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

HELP![edit]

Im playing Oblivion on the pc and im doing the shrine of the crusader mission. I am currently stuck underground and i have no previous saves. Is there any way of getting out? — Unsigned comment by Nmoyer1014 (talkcontribs) on 18 August 2009

Can you elaborate on how you are stuck? Are you lost? Please see the quest article about The Shrine of the Crusader. --Timenn-<talk> 10:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)