Oblivion:Mankar Camoran

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Mankar Camoran
(RefID: 0003392D)
(lore page)
Location Lake Arrius Caverns, Mankar Camoran's Paradise
Race High Elf Gender Male
Level PC+10 Class Mage
RefID 0003392D BaseID 00033908
Other Information
Health 35 + (3+0.6)x(PC+9), PC=1-91
Magicka 338 + 7.5x(PC+9) (max=450)
Responsibility 0 Aggression 0
Essential Until Paradise
Faction(s) Mankar Camoran faction
Mankar Camoran

Mankar Camoran is a High Elf mage and the leader of the Mythic Dawn cult, devoted to Mehrunes Dagon, and the secondary antagonist of the Main Quest.

He may be the illegitimate son of the Camoran Usurper and his Bosmeri mistress (as referenced in the book The Refugees). Mankar is the author of the Commentaries on the Mysterium Xarxes and the creator and leader of the Mythic Dawn. He has two children, Ruma and Raven, who are also members of his cult.

When you confront him in Carac Agaialor (his palace) during the Paradise quest, he is wearing the Amulet of Kings with Mankar Camoran's Robe and a pair of gold trimmed shoes.

In combat he wields his eponymous staff (with Disintegrate Armor and Shock Damage enchantments) as well as a large selection of spells (always strongest possible for his skill level). These are: one major Destruction spell, one major Silence spell, one major Disintegrate spell, one major Summon Daedra spell, one Reflect Spell spell, one Spell Absorption spell, and two Restoration spells (one major and one minor).

He can also rely on an impressive set of abilities:

Related Quests[edit]

Quest-related Events[edit]

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Dagon Shrine[edit]

"Hear now the words of Lord Dagon."

When you first meet Camoran, it is at the Mythic Dawn headquarters of Lake Arrius Caverns. He is giving a sermon to the cultists, and says:

The Dragon Throne is empty, and we hold the Amulet of Kings. Praise be to your brothers and sisters. Great shall be their reward in Paradise! Hear now the words of Lord Dagon: "When I walk the earth again, the Faithful among you shall receive your reward: to be set above all other Mortals forever." "As for the rest: the weak shall be winnowed; the timid shall be cast down; the mighty shall tremble at my feet and pray for pardon." Your reward, Brothers and Sisters! The time of Cleansing draws nigh. I go now to Paradise. I shall return with Lord Dagon at the coming of the Dawn!
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Paradise[edit]

When you enter Paradise, Mankar begins speaking to the player as a disembodied voice. He first says:

So, the cat's-paw of the Septims arrives at last. You didn't think you could take me unawares, here of all places? In the Paradise that I created? Look now upon my Paradise. Gaiar Alata, in the old tongue. A vision of the past... and the future.

After a short while, he will continue:

Behold the Savage Garden, where my disciples are tempered for a higher destiny: to rule over Tamriel Reborn. If you are truly the hero of destiny, as I hope, the Garden will not hold you for long. Lift your eyes to Carac Agaialor, my seat at the pinnacle of Paradise. I shall await you there.

As you make progress, he continues to speak to you. When you get the Bands of the Chosen from Kathutet, he says:

How little you understand! The Principalities have sparkled as gems in the black reaches of Oblivion since the First Morning. Many are their names and the names of their masters: the Coldharbour of Meridia, Peryite's Quagmire, the ten Moonshadows of Mephala, and... and Dawn's Beauty, the Princedom of Lorkhan... misnamed 'Tamriel' by deluded mortals.
Yes, you understand now. Tamriel is just one more Daedric realm of Oblivion, long since lost to its Prince when he was betrayed by those that served him. Lord Dagon cannot invade Tamriel, his birthright! He comes to liberate the Occupied Lands!

When you enter the Flooded Grotto, he says:

Ask yourself! How is it that mighty gods die, yet the Daedra stand incorruptible? How is it that the Daedra forthrightly proclaim themselves to man, while the gods cower behind statues and the faithless words of traitor-priests? It is simple... they are not gods at all. The truth has been in front of you since first you were born: the Daedra are the true gods of this universe. Julianos, Dibella and Stendarr are all Lorkhan's betrayers, posing as divinities in a principality that has lost its guiding light. What are Scholarship, Love, and Mercy when compared to Fate, Night, and Destruction? The gods you worship are trifling shadows of First Causes. They have tricked you for Ages.
Why do you think your world has always been contested ground, the arena of powers and immortals? It is Tamriel, the realm of Change, brother to Madness, sister to Deceit. Your false gods could not entirely rewrite history. Thus you remember tales of Lorkhan, vilified, a dead trickster, whose heart came to Tamriel. But if a god can die, how does his heart survive? He is daedroth! TAMRIEL AE DAEDROTH! "This Heart is the heart of the world, for one was made to satisfy the other." You all remember this. It is in every legend. Daedra cannot die, so your so-called gods cannot erase him from your minds completely.

When Eldamil removes the Bands of the Chosen, he says:

Well done, champion! Your progress is swift and sure. Perhaps you will reach me after all. You think I mock you? Not at all. In your coming, I hear the footsteps of Fate. You are the last defender of decadent Tamriel. I am the midwife of the Mythic Dawn, Tamriel Reborn. I welcome you, if you truly are the agent of Fate. I tire of the self-styled heroes who set themselves in my path, only to prove unworthy in the event.

When you enter his Palace, Carac Agaialor, he will stand up from his throne and say:

I have waited a long time for you, Champion of Old Tamriel. You are the last gasp of a dying age. You breathe the stale air of false hope. How little you understand! You cannot stop Lord Dagon. The walls between our worlds are crumbling. The Mythic Dawn grows nearer with every rift in the firmament. Soon, very soon, the lines now blurred will be erased. Tamriel and Oblivion rejoined! The Mythic Age reborn! Lord Dagon shall walk Tamriel again. The world shall be remade. The new age shall rise from the ashes of the old. My vision shall be realized. Weakness will be purged from the world, and mortal and immortal alike purified in the refiner's fire. My long duel with the Septims is over, and I have the mastery. The Emperor is dead. The Amulet of Kings is mine. And the last defender of the last ragged Septim stands before me, in the heart of my power. Let us see who at last has proved the stronger!

After this, he will first allow his offspring to attack you, before attacking you himself.

If you speak to him at any time when he is giving his speech in Carac Agaialor, he says:

"You came for the Amulet. Take it then!" (Turns hostile)

During combat, when attacking he will exclaim:

"Don't hold back!"
"You're no better than the others."
"I welcome the contest!"
"You came for the Amulet. Take it then!"
"Strength against strength!"

When hit he will instead cry:

"That's better!"
"A worthy foe, at last!"
"Fate chose you well."
"Old Tamriel still has some fight left in her!"
"My vision will yet be realized!"
"Your cause is already lost!"
"Lord Dagon will walk Tamriel again!"

Rumors[edit]

There are only two rumors on Mankar in the game Mythic Dawn Agents may talk about:

"The Master is preaching in the Shrine as we speak! Hurry, you should not miss the chance to hear the Master's words!"
"The Master knows the secret mind of Lord Dagon. He speaks with Him and teaches us from His holy book, the Mysterium Xarxes. You are fortunate indeed, to have heard the Master preach at your initiation!"

Notes[edit]

  • Mankar has an additional greeting line if you spoke to him outside Carac Agaialor: "Come into the High Hall of Judgment. Let us test ourselves against one another once and for all." As he will never venture outside, though, you will never hear this.
  • Mankar Camoran is voiced by Terence Stamp.
  • Mankar Camoran erroneously associates some Oblivion Realms with the wrong Princes. 'Coldharbour' is Molag Bal's domain while Meridia's is 'The Colored Rooms', 'Quagmire' belongs to Vaermina while Peryite reigns over 'The Pits' and 'Moonshadow' is the realm of Azura while Mephala is sovereign of the 'Spiral Skein'.
  • Mankar Camoran also appears in the Jaws of Oblivion card expansion for Legends.
  • The Monomyth attributes the creation of Mundus to Lorkhan and the Aedra, describing how Lorkhan tricked the Aedra into making the world. In his speech Mankar Camoran holds that this is a lie purveyed by Tamriel's clergy. According to Mankar the Aedra are usurpers who rebelled against Lorkhan.
  • The most controversial of Mankar's statements is that Nirn is nothing but another realm in Oblivion (though he refers only to Tamriel in his speech, instead of Nirn). This is mostly a matter of definition: as Mundus is surrounded by Oblivion it can be seen as part of it. On the other hand its history and Liminal barrier also set it apart from Oblivion.

Bugs[edit]

  • Mankar will speak in a normal Elf voice if you steal from him during the Dagon Shrine quest. This will also happen if you use Invisibility or Chameleon during the Paradise quest, and he cannot locate you.