Bloodmoon talk:Benkongerike

Etymology

The apparent etymology for this name in Norwegian is "Kingdom of Bones". Etymologies were finally consented to when they were somewhat relevant to the article they were placed on. I'm fine with the etymology staying if there is some way this location can be seen as some sort of kingdom of bones, otherwise it will be removed for its irrelevance. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 00:04, 16 September 2013 (GMT)

That policy has not been enforced in more than a few Solstheim related articles, especially in Bloodmoon articles. (As I quite regularly found etymological notes on several Solstheim names, I even added some myself, being fluent in Norwegian as my native language.) I have no principal objection to a policy if followed consistently, but on Solstheim articles it has definitively not been followed. In such a context one single summarily revert, and as such on a copy from a Bloodmoon article to the Dragonborn article, feels somewhat out of the place. —MortenOSlash (talk) 00:14, 16 September 2013 (GMT)

Remove them if you see them, just because they exist doesn't mean they should stay. I take it you cannot show this etymology to be relevant then? Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 00:19, 16 September 2013 (GMT)

I haven't put my copy of Morrowind in my Xbox in forever, but I just ran through Benjongerike again in Skyrim, and there doesn't seem to be enough of anything supporting the relevance of the etymology. I'll admit, I find it really interesting, and would love for it to stay on the page, but there's no more bones/skulls in Benkongerike than other Riekling areas. Just the usual scattered skulls and occasional bones for decoration and in the parts of their structures, nothing particularly notable in comparison to other places. — ABCface^◥ 00:41, 16 September 2013 (GMT)

I think ABC indirectly sums up much what this is about. There are several etymological contributions to articles on caves and sites in Solstheim that seen isolated to the particular article might more or less arguably not really follow the policy strictly, but still have been left in peace by other contributors on the Wiki for months, even for several years in some cases. The reason is that, in so far the contributions have been noticed, and not been exactly following policy, they have been tolerated and possibly even liked for the added value of understanding the name of the place, and for being a part of a pattern of naming done by the developers.

That is the fact when finally now someone has come around, having a day when policing policy strict no matter what, is more important this feeling of a completeness of understanding a pattern of Solstheim naming. So no-one will any more know that if they die in Benkongerike, their bones will be resting royally.

There is no way the name can be a coincidence as there are so many Solstheim names, especially in Bloodmoon, that clearly have a Danish or Norwegian translations or origins, so the only argument against including etymology in this particular instance, is that there are no more bones there than in most Riekling caves. The coincidence is that it was this particular cave that got this name, not the etymology. —MortenOSlash (talk) 17:44, 16 September 2013 (GMT)

I agree with Morten. If the policy is not being enforced, and hasn't been enforced in a long time, then the policy itself is outdated and needs to be changed, not the articles. --AN|L (talk) 19:31, 16 September 2013 (GMT)

Etymology has always been in some way opposed by the majority of editors, even the dedicated etymology page was deleted at one point after a Deletion Review. Lax patrolling and prior history has nothing to do with it when the "policy" (more of a guideline) was only settled on recently. If the same argument was used for easter eggs, then my recent removals of years old easter egg inclusions would need reverted and our policy changed simply because editors did not have the wherewithal to remove them at the time they were added. This has nothing to do with one editor enforcing policy for policies sake, the edit here was made recently and reverted almost immediately, don't blame me for someone not noticing the same note being added to the Dragonborn page and removing it. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 19:56, 16 September 2013 (GMT)