Oblivion talk:Akaviri Commander Mishaxhi

Connection to Mishaxhi's Cleaver?

I've been trying to figure out whether there is supposed to be any connection between Akaviri Commander Mishaxhi and Mishaxhi's Cleaver, or is it just a bizarre coincidence that this name is used twice?

Mishaxhi's Cleaver is carried by Casnar, one of the Undead Blades in Sancre Tor during Blood of the Divines. It's an enchanted Akaviri Dai-Katana. At first I was thinking maybe Casnar was supposedly involved in the original fighting at Pale Pass, but the timing doesn't add up. Casnar is an Imperial who served with Tiber Septim, i.e., he lived at that start of the third era. But the Pale Pass invasion happened at the end of the first era.

Does anyone else have any ideas about what the connection here might be? --Nephele 03:42, 25 January 2007 (EST)

It's possible that Mishaxhi's Cleaver is a relic of that war, and that he lost it in one battle or another before he was trapped in Pale Pass. IIRC, Casnar and the other three were the best the Blades had to offer, thus it stands to reason that they would have had the best equipment when they went. Th232 06:16, 25 January 2007 (EST)

No such thing as an Akaviri race

It is likely that the developers just left him as the default (Imperial) race since the Akaviri race is not implemented in the game.

There is no such thing as an Akaviri race, for the same reason there isn't a Tamrielian race. On Akavir there are the Kamal, the Tsaesci, the Tang Mo, and the Ka Po' Tun and perhaps some left over Man, that presumably got assimilated into the Tseasci culture.

Seems to me this whole quest was just pushed in without much thought or polish and a load of serpent metaphors, but I'm not changing the article because I'm not sure how much lore theorem the UESP want's to drag into this.

62.251.15.186 11:49, 29 December 2007 (EST) Proweler

Good point, well made. I've made a small edit to the page to reflect your point but I don't think it's the right place to go into masses of detail so I've kept it to the minimum. —Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 03:43, 30 December 2007 (EST)

I would recommend displaying his race as Imperial, for the same reason Lucien Lachance is listed as a Dark Brotherhood Murderer rather than a Speaker. If no-one objects, I'm going to change it. Robed Dawnbringer 03:41, 8 March 2008 (EST)

Good point. He definetely doesn't look like a Tang Mo , Tsaesci , Kamal , or Ka Po Tun . --Oblivion nerd 21:11, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Strange Category

I've removed Mishaxhi from the [[:Category:Oblivion-Other Races]] category. I presume this is a remnant of his "Akaviri" race, mentioned in the above discussion. The NPC is an Imperial for all intents and purposes. --Legoless 13:31, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Asian eyes

I have twice reverted an edit to this page claiming that the Akaviri invasion involving Pale Pass was by Akaviri humans and not "beastmen" Tsaesci, and that Mishaxhi has "Asian" eyes. This information is false:

• Mishaxhi uses standard Imperial features, as can be seen from this image.
• The Tsaesci are not confirmed to be beastmen, as every single Tsaesci or descendant of a Tsaesci we have encountered has been human. See Online:Sword Master Vhysradue, who is clearly not a snake.
• This Akaviri invasion was carried out by Tsaesci, as confirmed by many different sources (History of the Fighters Guild, 2920, First Seed (v3), Crafting Motif 53: Tsaesci to name a few). Mysterious Akavir is not a work that can be taken literally and is not by itself a basis for claiming that human Tsaesci are actually a different race entirely; this is extrapolation/speculation on our part and therefore is not appropriate to state as fact.

—⁠Legoless (talk) 09:41, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

I know Mishaxhi is portrayed as an Imperial, but they also made effort to portray him as Asian-like as possible, as you can see in the image you posted on the right. But if I understand you correctly, you're implying the Tsaesci actually are humans, the Asian-looking human race on Nirn. I would have claimed Vhysradue is another Akaviri human Samurai, but what you mean is this actually are the Tsaesci, right? 212.186.15.63 10:08, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, so we're told. This is obviously inconsistent with descriptions of Tsaesci as snakelike, but most of those descriptions seem to either be allegorical (Mysterious Akavir) or fictional (2920) so we can't really say anything concrete on the matter. As for Mishaxhi's features, he doesn't look particularly East Asian to me in this image. —⁠Legoless (talk) 10:21, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Let's hope The Elder Scrolls VI sheds some more light on this. Perhaps a TES VI: Akavir. :-) 212.186.15.63 11:05, 14 September 2020 (UTC)