Oblivion talk:Command Humanoid

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Contents 1 Disposition 2 Reverse Command Spell? 3 What constitutes 'humanoid'? 4 Spell making 5 Command humanoid armor? 6 Permanent effects 7 Enchanting? 8 Guards

[edit] Disposition

Comment moved from main article--verification would be appreciated. --Eshe 16:51, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

Also note, after the spell wears off, the targets disposition towards you will drop significantly, with a few exceptions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.163.143.18 (talk • contribs).

• I can confirm this through playtesting, but someone else will have to dig into the code for the mechanics (how much the Dispo value is lowered, etc). I have noticed that NPCs do become angry at your after the effect wears off. Pretty handy, in a way, if you want to train your Speechcraft against someone who already loves you. I had the singularly unpleasant experience of lowering an Arcane University apprentice's disposition to the point that she attacked my character on sight. Since it's impossible to have a normal conversation with any AU student or scholar, I could not rebuild that Disposition again. Every time this Apprentice respawned, she attacked (until I raised my character's Personality, now that Apprentic merely glowers). All from using Command Humanoid on her one too many times.Dark Spark 20:28, 18 December 2007 (EST)

It usually brings the dispo to 0 after the effect wears off. The only times i've found it doesn't is if the person is supposed to like you. So some quest NPCs and a few other random NPCs won't have their dispo drop as much but everyone else drops to 0. Lord Eydvar 07:45, 2 December 2008 (EST)

[edit] Reverse Command Spell?

If a 100% spell reflect spell is cast onto an NPC by the player, and then the player casts Command Humanoid onto that NPC, does this result in the NPC then controlling the player? --Merco 10:38, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

Nope. In a recent jaunt through the Planes of Oblivion while carrying a Command Humanoid Bow, I shot a Dremora who had Reflect Spell active. A green Illusion haze floated off my character, but she was none the worse from the spell bouncing back. —Dark Spark 02:21, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

[edit] What constitutes 'humanoid'?

Could someone please clarify this? Is a humanoid any being with head, two arms and two legs? Any being which can potentially have dialogue? Are humanoids restricted to an arbitrary group of races? I raise this issue because there seems to be some overlap between the spell effects Command Humanoid and Command Creature. 115.64.164.186 20:40, 18 April 2009 (EDT) Ritchie

In this game, it's anyone that you could have a conversation with. That includes NPCs (characters belonging to the races that a player could join the game as) as well as Dremora, Golden Saints and Dark Seducers. Note that you cannot talk to Xivilai, and hence they are considered a monster/creature rather than a humanoid enemy (you can Soultrap them in a white Grand Soul Gem, for example). —Dark Spark 03:46, 19 April 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Spell making

If I made a spell with say burden x points for 30 sec and command humanoid level 25 30 secs would if i used it on an NPC make it so that no crime was commited. Ect i used it on a citizen and recieved no bounty. Or would i Have to use the command humanoid spell first?

[edit] Command humanoid armor?

Would it be possible to enchant a weightless piece of armor with command humanoid, reverse pickpocket it on to someone, and gain them as a personal ally?

No, since it is not listedunder the enchanting effects. It is possible, however, with the construction set and/or mods

[edit] Permanent effects

I keep seeing things about using a "permanent Command spell", but I've yet to find any sort of instructions for making one. How do you do it? Felindre 02:47, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Find out where to buy it here then see this page. –rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 06:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything about a permanent Command spell on the Spell Making page; not on the Useful Spells page either. Felindre 16:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

A little late but anyway, there's no way to get a permanent Command spell, but you can stack different named spells with Command effects, that's what the second link was for, I guess.--S'drassa 20:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Enchanting?

Can you enchant something with Command Humanoid? I was thinking about enchanting something and giving it to an Essential NPC... 68.113.150.31 03:29, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

No, but you can get staves with it. –Elliot ^talk 04:07, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Guards

I've noticed that certain spell effects do not work guards. Does this one?

Only the most powerful spells can work on the guards but if you have a spell effectiveness less than 100% then the strenght of the spell will decrease and thus it won't work. To command guards you need to have a level 25 command humanoid spell and also a spell effectiveness of 100 or the level at wich the spell works will decrease.--S'drassa 18:50, 14 November 2009 (UTC)