Morrowind talk:Dagoth Ur (god)

Incorrect Account

According to the document Nerevar at Red Mountain, Dagoth-Ur himself suggested the tools of Kagrenac be destroyed. Nerevar asked Dagoth-Ur to protect the tools until he returned, and then sought council from his advisors - Almelexia, Sotha Sil and Vivec. Nerevar's advisors suggested they use the tools to take over Morrowind, however Nerevar was unsure and attempted to contact Azura for advice. During this attempt, however, the Nerevar's power-hungry advisors murdered him and then chased Dagoth-Ur away from the tools of Kagrenac. Thus, the three advisors used the tools to become the Tribunal. This conflicts with the articles, which state that Dagoth-Ur confronted Nerevar because he did not want to destroy the tools. This article reflects the Temple's dogmatic cover-up, rather than what is true in terms of in-game objectivity. 173.88.124.222 17:51, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Dagoth Ur himself mentioned that Nerevar betrayed him and struck him down. This proves that the Tribunal version is at the very least partly correct. Nerevar did return to Red Mountain and fought with Dagoth over Kagrenac's Tools. If Nerevar was murdered by the Tribunal before Dagoth was driven off, when did Nerevar strike Dagoth down?
Ongoingwhy^Talk 14:25, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

If Dagoth Ur was struck down how is he back alive then? He might have come back with as little memory as the nerverine and just be spouting rhetoric to sow the seeds of uncertainty in his enemy before their battle. It is all speculation and every side has a some kind of support to it.--Zar Pof 04:16, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Rewrite Needed

This article reads like a Lore article (no surprise since it's just transcluding the Lore article on the site). There is nothing at all mentioned on this page that is relevant to your encounters with Dagoth Ur in the actual game. I think the majority of the Lore stuff should be removed from this page (using noincludes on the Lore article), and replaced by actual gameplay information, such as the nature of the two encounters you have, explanation of the effects of multiple hits on the Heart of Lorkhan, discussion of the supposed weakening of Dagoth Ur caused by killing the Ash Vampires (even though it doesn't actually work properly), and other things relevant to the gameplay experience. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 09:52, 15 October 2008 (EDT)

Voice Talent

Does anyone know who voiced Dagoth Ur? HugoL 23:28, 10 January 2009 (EST)HugoLHugoL 23:28, 10 January 2009 (EST)

I've always wonered who voiced who in Morrowind... Couldn't someone find out all this voices so that we could put them here?Kertaw48 19:27, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I've been puzzling with this as well. I've managed to compile a table of voice actors I've suspected a certain role of, but I couldn't complete it. The voice of Dagoth Ur sounds similar to that of the Altmer (David DeBoy), but not similar enough. --Timenn-<talk> 15:40, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I paid more attention to Dagoth Ur's voice when I finished the game this time around and I'm 100% sure he's voiced by the same actor who voiced the male Imperials in this game. The problem is that I haven't been able to find his name yet. His voice is also similar to that of Mehrunes Dagon and, if you've played Fallout 3, he's the one who provided the voice for Bannon and Doc Hoff, among others. --Chill02 01:19, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

You might be right. I use IMDB as the place to go for these sorts of things — Wes Johnson appears to have done the male Imperials in Oblivion as well as several voices in Morrowind, though it doesn't mention Dagoth Ur by name. – Robin Hood↝talk 01:24, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

It appears he was voiced by Jeff Baker. --Chill02 00:38, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Soul

Does anyone know why Dagoth Ur has no soul? Is this a bug or is there some higher reason? Karl1965 14:00, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

He has a soul. You can't capture the soul of a NPC, you can only capture the souls of creatures. Remember, he lost his divinity when you destroy the Heart of Lorkhan.
Ongoingwhy^Talk 14:29, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Actually he's a creature rather than an NPC, but he actually has no soul - it's defined as 0 in the CS so there's nothing to capture. I don't know exactly why that should be. rpeh •T•C•E• 15:28, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

He's a creature when he was a god(like Vivec) but he lost his divinity. That's why the developers gave him 0 soul value since you can't kill him while he's a god.(in my opinion)
Ongoingwhy^Talk 15:50, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

To clarify, what I meant was; the developers gave him a soul value of 0 since you can only kill him once he loses his divinity, a.k.a becoming a mortal(NPC).
Ongoingwhy^Talk 15:56, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

His soul is always 0, even when he "loses his divinity". And he NEVER becomes an NPC. He is always a creature. And I doubt that the reason for him having no soul is as deep as you suggest. It's just negligence on the part of developers. No higher reasons here. And even if there were, I think that the UESP forum is a better place to discuss that. -- kertaw48 16:10, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Technically is Dagoth Ur a creature, like Vivec. Metaphysically they are equal, too. Both get their "divinity" from the Heart of Lorkan. Vivec has a soul of 1000, Dagoth Ur 0. Sounds like a bug to me. I'm just asking, because I'm working on my own version of a mega bug fix, and I was wondering if I should give Dagoth Ur a soul, that's all. Maybe a little bit OT on this page. Sorry for that. Karl1965 21:57, 19 September 2011 (UTC)