Oblivion talk:A Mage's Staff

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Hi, I entered the Wellspring Cave and did find the key, killed two of Necromancers that were there near the body and proceeded into the main section where I ended up falling into the water (off the bridge accross the water) so I went back to a save that I had after killing the first two. There were two more in the main section that I killed. At that point I looked for another exit and did not find one. I thought I had to swim out and tried that but that turns out to simply be a loop so that if you fall off the bridge you can swim around to a ramp on the other side to get out. For the record I am not in the apprentice mages outfit, I have on chainmail armor. I don't know if that makes a difference or not. Just to be clear I did get sent on this quest by Raminus Polus after completing the mage quests to the apprentice level.

It should also be mentioned in the Detailed Walkthrough that I beleive that the final chest and the other Necromancers and Eletta are on an island? that is somehow reached through the exit that you need the key for. I found a reference to this on another site but no mention of how to get to it. I also found some info that said there was a graveyard outside and behind the cave and that is where the grove of trees are to be found but this doesn't seem to be true either.

At this point I am wondering if I have discovered a glitch in the storyline. I will be trying again tonight to find a second exit (other then the main door that you come in), but to the best of my memory I have only found 4 Necromancers in the cave, one of which had some good stuff on it. There were two near the entrance and two in the main body of the cave. I did leave the cave after the first two and then came back and oddly the body of the first one i killed was missing i think. Maybe I have to start all over again?

SirKnite

There is a tab in the quest section that serves as a map for dungeons and cities. Its the first tab in the quest setion.

Contents 1 Staff 2 More on the cave 3 Other Staves 4 I'm having trouble too

[edit] Staff

So can you take this unfinished staff and enchant it yourself with a soul gem or Azura's star at the enchanting altar?

[edit] More on the cave

Ok I found out the error of my ways. Hmm. Some how I just didn't see the tunnel to the left on the other side of the bridge that leads out to the rear entrance. And that is where the other two necromancers were plus some more outside.

SirKnite moving on.

[edit] Other Staves

If you steal or buy a staff after this quest has started, the quest will be marked as completed and you will not be able to make your own. In addition, Rominus will not be able to give you your next task.

I've moved this note here from the main article, because I can't really figure it out. If you were to somehow steal one of the low-level reward staves from this quest before the quest finished, yes, this would probably happen. Several of the low-level reward staves have an associated script (MG08StaffScript) that updates this quest to stage 100 when it is picked up. But there isn't really any way to steal the quest's reward staff, short of using console commands to cheat and give yourself one (which then does not qualify as a glitch). And stealing or buying any of the hundreds of other staves in the game should have absolutely no effect on this quest. Standard staves have no attached script, so there is no way for anything unusual to happen when you acquire one.

If anyone has any examples of this actually happening while playing, it would be useful to know the exact details to figure out what happened in that one case, and then decide whether it could happen in any other cases. For example, what staff specifically did you acquire, and how? What was the quest update message that appeared when you got the staff? Where were you in the quest at the time? --Nephele^Talk 13:45, 7 July 2007 (EDT)

[edit] I'm having trouble too

Same with me, although I am playing on the PS3. I killed everyone and grabbed the staff and went back but he keeps telling me to go get a staff. I noticed one of the necromancers is unaccounted for (there were usually 3 but the one time I was successful in killing them there were only two) so I suppose this is contributing to the fact I can't finish the quest. --Bluecat^Talk

It might be worth trying to put the staff back in the chest, walk around for a moment then take it out again. Maybe that will force the necessary update. --Rpeh^Talk 02:59, 2 October 2007 (EDT)

After you kill all the necromancers at the grove(you don't have to kill the ones in the cave) you will get an update saying you can now take your staff to the university. There's a chance that one of the necromancers may have either entered the cave or moved far away from you that they lost track of you. --Sundaroct131088 05:37, 2 October 2007 (EDT)

Hi, this is the original poster again. Guess what? I wandered around forever and the third necromancer never showed. So I moved on and bought the manor in Anvil and was exploring it when the final necromancer showed up in my living room (!!) and she gave me her 'another plaything' speech. I killed her and lo and behold, I was able to finish the quest. Now I have a dead body in my living room... weird huh? --Bluecat^Talk