Oblivion talk:Alawen

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Contents 1 Essential..or not? 2 console command not needed? 3 Agressive Alawen 4 Killed by bandits? 5 Elven Bow 6 Can't Start Master Marksman Training Quest. 7 She's pretty good for Dark Brotherhood attention

[edit] Essential..or not?

Hey it isn't written in her NPC summary and an editor said she often gets killed because she wanders around and attacks creatures in her vicinity. It's true that she often hunts but when I took this screenshot, I noticed that she was an essential character and thus couldn't die...I waited lots of days (mainly to get rid of the snow..but it didn't go away :/ ) and she was always at her camp when not hunting. ps: I have OOO installed so maybe it's one of its bundled changes? --Vartan 01:51, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

I can't see any indication that she should ever be essential (without mods). She isn't set to be essential at the start of the game, and there's nothing in the CS that ever changes her essential-ness. There's also a quest update specifically for if she happens to die, so the developers seemed to think that death was a possibility. So that might well be an OOO change.

BTW, since you mentioned weather... If you want to get rid of snow, you can change the game's weather in the console: fw 38eee for example forces the weather to be clear (and in the daytime, sunny). There's more on the command here. --Nephele 02:44, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Oh alrighty, so I guess it must be OOO...and it makes more sense because there are the high/very high level creatures/npcs around that area so maybe that's why they made her invincible. Also, thanks for the weather command, I didn't think of that while in-game :p --Vartan 02:51, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

I think there may be another side-effect of OOO here. I'm pretty sure (though I'd have to look it up) that she's supposed to be wearing clothing or armor of some sort. It's likely that if she's been made invincible, that she got into several fights and most of her armor is broken. It looks like she's lost everything but the greaves. (And possibly the boots which are out of frame.) I'm guessing in the un-modded game, she'd usually end up dead before her armor got reduced to this state. Might want to try and find a more properly-attired screenshot? --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 09:53, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Yes, she is originally equipped with leather boots, greaves, gauntlets, and cuirass, and a silver bow and arrows. --Nephele 10:16, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Yeah I'm sorry, I knew I shouldn't have taken pictures of characters that look different from the vanilla version as it may confuse the readers. Feel free to change the picture once you have a picture of the original character by simply updating a new version of the one I uploaded :p I guess I'll stick with the "comon" characters in cities and such. (for the screenshots) --Vartan 11:17, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

I don't think it's the OOO, as she's marked essential in mine, too. My guess is that it's the Unofficial Oblivion Patch. 64.105.36.31 23:18, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

It's OOO. I've just checked the latest UOP and OOO 1.32 RC3 in the CS (separately, I should add), and she is flagged as essential in OOO.--Gaebrial 12:02, 8 November 2007 (EST)

[edit] console command not needed?

Alawen ran to the nearby ruins and I assumed she died and used the console command to respawn her so I could train. Worked fine. Leveled up and came back to train again. Now there are three Alawen's at the camp. I am using OOO. People may be better off waiting around for her than using the console to get her back like the note says.Thezorn 00:52, 8 November 2007 (EST)

[edit] Agressive Alawen

I was walking around the wilderness and i found her camp. But when i aproached it the battle music started and i drew my blade and started looking around, and all of a sudden Alawen attacks me with her bow from a distance and i was forced to kill her. Do anyone know why this happened?

With an Aggression of 5, Alawen should never attack you. It's more likely she was attacking a wolf or other animal that appeared nearby and you got in the way... unless you had a huge infamy or something like that. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 17:16, 11

January 2008 (EST) I didnt have a huge infamy so i quess your right about that wolf thing.

[edit] Killed by bandits?

I think their may be a strong possability of Alawen being killed by the bandits who camp just a bit further up to the rigth of Alawens camp and heres my reason why. After testing i found If you go to her camp in day time and Alawen is there and wait an hour she is normally missing and sometimes will never make it back no matter how long you wait which probaly means she's been killed. So i loaded my game to the nearest save and went back to her camp during the day and Alawen was their, this time i decided before waiting an hour to trigger her dissaperance to go to the camp i mentioned earlier (sorry i don't know it's name and by the way even if you come across it you will not get any conformation off the game or a map marker and if you check the official strategy guide in the maps section for it's name you will have no luck as it is not there for some reason ethier)thier was two bandits there so i killed them both and headed back down to Alawens camp. After seeing she was still their i waited an hour and she was gone, then i waited till dark and Alawen came back unharmed and i have also went as far away as possible from the camp for long periods of time and when i go back she is still alive and well and if you check the bandit camp you will also notice that they never appear again making it a lot more likely that Alawen will stay alive.

[edit] Elven Bow

Do you need the bow with you whenever you want training, or just the first time? --Debatra 17:15, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Just the first time. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 06:38, 19 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Can't Start Master Marksman Training Quest.

Hi, I have recently been recieving training from Reman Broder but now he can't teach me any more, nor can Pinarus Inventius, but neither of them can give me the quest to recieve master training!

If you know why this might be, or how I can solve this problem, your help would be much appreciated. Thanks. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.197.9.221 (talk • contribs).}

[edit] She's pretty good for Dark Brotherhood attention

That is, of course, if you're not interested in learning bow training from a master. I had no idea that was what she was for and I killed her the first time I attempted a playthrough of this game, because I still had a crappy bow and she had a silver one. I'm actually quite tempted to do it again because I hate spending money to upgrade my skills unless it's a benefit of a piece of equipment and I'm looking to join the Dark Brotherhood. -- J5689 17:31, 28 July 2008 (EDT)