Oblivion talk:Baurus

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Contents 1 his katana 2 SetEssential 3 The one katana 4 the young'n 5 Dialogue after completing the main quest?

[edit] his katana

Does anyone know the iD of his akaviri katana?LordDagon 11:35, 18 December 2007 (EST)lordDagon

Yup. It's 0006b843. Also, you can sign your posts using four tildes (~~~~) --Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 14:52, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Thanks Rpeh. I've adjusted the tildes. Next question: If you take the katana from Baurus during the tutorial, will he have a backup sword or weapon or will he just fight for the rest of the main quest bare-handed?LordDagon 11:35, 18 December 2007 (EST)lordDagon

I can't see how it's possible to make this happen without cheating so much as to make the question meaningless. The only sword Baurus carries is his katana, so I'd imagine that he'll fight bare-handed, although he'd probably pick up another sword if he found one. But since there's no way of stealing the sword from him, and waiting until it wears out and breaks gives a new meaning to the word "dull", I don't think this is ever likely to happen. —Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 13:51, 18 December 2007 (EST)

It's possible. The very first time i played Oblivion ( never having even heard of the wiki ) i just kept fighting those assassins ( while the emperor was waiting in that small room ), ad his katana broke. Of course, I had battled very long. ( The bodies piled up terribly )LordDagon 08:00, 23 December 2007 (EST)lordDagon

one more thing about his katana is that if he dies and you pick it up then talk to Jauffre. He mentions Baurus's death, thanks you for retrieving the katana, and take it away from you mentioning it deserves a special place or something like that.

[edit] SetEssential

Something odd happens when I try to make Baurus essential. Using the setessential command, his reference ID (32A17) - the one at the top of his profile box doesn't work - but his so-called base ID (23F2A) does. I have always used the reference IDs in the past, and have never experienced anything like this. Any thought/comments/better knowledge of the console than me :)? ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.127.79.8 (talk • contribs).}

The SetEssential command is one that requires a BaseID, rather than a RefID. The information on BaseIDs and RefIDs is something that has only just been added to the site. Which means that any IDs you got from UESP's NPC pages prior to last Friday were all BaseIDs. It also means that we haven't had a chance yet to get the Console page fully updated: eventually that page should provide better information on which commands require RefIDs and which require BaseIDs. Yes, it's confusing having to keep track of two IDs and know which one works for which commands, but that's the way Bethesda wrote the game ;) --Nephele^Talk 15:44, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Ahh - thanks for that. And that would make sense, actually, since I did the Battle for Castle Kvatch on Thursday, and when I come to do the one with Baurus in the sewers today, suddenly making people essential wasn't working. And from the look of it, Base ID is the one you use for 'placeatme' as well. Thanks again. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.127.79.8 (talk • contribs).}

Yes, BaseID is the ID to use with the placeatme command. However, using the placeatme command with NPCs is really not a good idea, as explained at NPC Console IDs. That's one of the main reasons for switching the NPC pages to prominently display the RefID instead of the BaseID: using console commands (for example moveto) that affect the existing character via RefID is much safer and much more likely to actually do what you want than spawning a second copy of the character using BaseID. --Nephele^Talk 13:15, 21 January 2008 (EST)

[edit] The one katana

If Baurus' katana breaks in the sewers during the tutorial, and he drops it, does that mean that he never has a weapon (apart from those that he picks up) for the rest of the game? --Merco 14:29, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Actually, that was my second question under the first headline; Next question: If you take the katana from Baurus during the tutorial, will he have a backup sword or weapon or will he just fight for the rest of the main quest bare-handed?, to which Rpeh replied I can't see how it's possible to make this happen without cheating so much as to make the question meaningless. The only sword Baurus carries is his katana, so I'd imagine that he'll fight bare-handed, although he'd probably pick up another sword if he found one.. --LordDagon 12:14, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] the young'n

No way is he the youngest blade like jauffre says. Does anyone know if some bethesda pedant when into the CS and made all the other spring chickens newer by a year? ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Temple-Zero (talk • contribs) on 29 July 2008.}

He probbaly joined when he was younger and when you meet him he's been in for a couple of years or more.217.44.19.242 17:23, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

I'm guessing you're talking about this line?

One of the youngest Blades ever to serve in the Emperor's personal guard.

If so, I wouldn't interpret it to mean that he's the youngest Blade overall. It's likely to mean that he's younger than Renault and Glenroy, who as far as I know made up the rest of the Emperor's personal guard. But it's also possible that Baurus joined the personal guard 20 years ago when he was 25 -- so 25 is the youngest age at which someone has ever joined the personal guard, but Baurus is no longer that young. Which, I just realized, is exactly what the last post just suggested ;) --Nephele^Talk 18:10, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Dialogue after completing the main quest?

Can you guys post what he says after stopping the Oblivion siege machine thing and the main quest? He died with Jauffre in the battle for Bruma in my game, but I'm still curious. All help would be appreciated. 60.50.69.188 07:58, 31 August 2008 (EDT)

Done. And Jauffre's too. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 08:15, 31 August 2008 (EDT)

And I just read the quote and it's now spoiled my whole game... this is my first playthrough, Baurus just died in the sewers so I came to find out if that will have a bad effect in the future, and instead I learn that Martin is going to die in the end... great!! ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 78.53.37.221 (talk • contribs) on 15 November 2008.}

Where does it say he dies? Furthermore, a disclaimer can be found on the Main Page that you should keep in mind that the entire site contains spoilers. There is little content that can be posted that doesn't spoil something about the game. --Timenn < talk > 07:40, 15 November 2008 (EST)

I don't have any problem with regular spoilers, but I think it's not necessary to have a spoiler that gives away the conclusion of the main quest written on the page of a non essential NPC. I think it's common for Baurus to die in the sewers, and people are going to read this article just to find out if Baurus's death is going to have negative consequences, and then they'll see Baurus's quote about Martin : "he sacrificed himself to save us all". I would certainly have preferred Martin's sacrifice to be a surprise. ^{—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 78.53.44.10 (talk • contribs) on 22 November 2008.}

Everybody has different ideas of what constituted a spoiler. UESP has long had the policy of posting anything because people really should realise that the entire site is one big spoiler. I'm sorry your game was spoiled but I'm afraid we're not going to change the site based on one person's bad experience. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 08:29, 22 November 2008 (EST)