Oblivion talk:Fathis Ules

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Contents 1 Unpickable Chest 2 Sewer Access 3 Can't find him anywhere 4 Service Times 5 Sitting 6 Bartering 7 Can't use him as a fence! 8 Master of Mercantile? What?

[edit] Unpickable Chest

There's an unpickable locked box behind Fathis Ules' house. Anyone know where the key is? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 149.135.89.241 (talk • contribs).

Assuming you mean the chest identified as "Fathis Ules Chest", it does not have a key (even though the lock says that a key is needed to open it). In other words, there is no way to get into this chest. If you want access to the contents, you need to buy them from Fathis Ules. --Nephele 23:22, 5 December 2006 (EST)

Happens alot with Thieves Guild fences. Luciana Galena (if I spelt that correctly) has an unpickable chest too. It's a sad world for thieves...--Hicky 05:15, 24 February 2007 (EST)

There is a key - Fathis Ules carries it on him and you can pickpocket it off him if you're sneak and security skill are high enough212.248.219.126 09:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

No there isn't. That key is for his house's door, not the chest. –rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 09:14, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sewer Access

You can access the sewers through Fathis Ules' basement.

[edit] Can't find him anywhere

Okay, I've been looking for him to use as a fence for a while now. I've finished the Thieves Guild questline, and I've used him as a fence before. I have tried going everywhere that this page says that he is during the times that he is, and he isn't there. I haven't started Sins of a Father or whatever the quests name is, so that's not the problem either. Any ideas on where I could find him? Harrison 23:19, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

Nevermind, I found him. He was stuck in the Orcs bedroom. Harrison 23:27, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

I have the same problem, tell me the name of the orc plz. --Ptowery 21:35, 9 November 2008 (EST)

[edit] Service Times

On Xbox360 version with the Shivering Isles pack I can use Fathis as a fence everywhere except in the Thieves Guild "clubhouse". He'll tell me he's the best in the biz but the option to buy/sell never shows there. He's not quite the 24/7 fence for me. Is this a bug?

I've found that he will only deal with me while he is sitting on his chest - at other times, the trade icon is not present (xbox) - is this generally the case? If so, the 24 hrs availability should be changed, it seems.

I'm also having a problem with Fathis Ules. I'm playing thru for the 4th time and this is the first game I've tried to use him as a fence. Now that I can use him as a fence, he never has the barter icon available in my game. I have not yet completed the 'Sins of the Father' quest and I've followed him all over Imperial City at all times of the day trying to barter with him. I'll live, but it's worth mentioning that I'm on the xbox as well. ButrBiscut 02:39, 26 May 2007 (EDT)

I know for me on the PC it took a while for the quest to update saying I could use him as a fence, then it worked.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.191.238.10 (talk • contribs).

There seem to be a couple extra twists with NPC service times that I'm still trying to completely understand. One issue seems to be that whenever a NPC is moving from one place to another they generally won't offer services, even if they offer services both at the place they are leaving from and the place they are going to. I'm guessing that may be the problem players are encountering with Fathis.

On the other hand, I can confirm on Xbox that I've been able to get him to barter (both buy and sell) when he was in the Arboretum, the Tiber Septim Hotel, the King and Queen Tavern, and the Market District, in addition to when he is at his chest. So he definitely does not only offer services when he is at his vendor chest. I've provided details on when and where he can be found to hopefully make it easier to barter with him. --Nephele^Talk 21:51, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

on uesp it says that he is on his chest from 7pm-5am but he is never there!!!! and i dont have them quests active. please help

Have you completed the Sins of the Father quest? If you have, Fathis stays in Chorrol and won't return to the Imperial City. The quest doesn't have to be active for this to happen. If you're on the PC version you can install the fix given, if not you'll just have to use the other fences. --Rpeh^Talk 04:43, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

You might want to check Dul gro-shug's house. Sometime I find him stuck in front of the private quarters' door. Talking to him fixes the problem on my PS3. If this happens a lot you may want to steal Dul gro-shug's key to make accessing his house easier 194.154.66.220 12:31, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

After completing the Thieves guild questline i have recently found Fathis Ules in Dareloths House next to Armand Christophe this was at 11.25 on Fredas. This was also for the 360, also i have had trouble finding him on his chest so i was wondering if someone could check if after the thieves guild questline has finished that this is where he shows up instead of His Chest.

Anyone else notice him stealing wine when he goes to eat lunch? lol Wanna add that to the page as a note or something? --75.80.18.8 01:15, 29 January 2008 (EST)

its not really notable to tell you the truth, alot of the NPCs will steal food, its if their responsiblity is below 30 they will steal/buy stolen items--65.87.55.174 23:12, 10 February 2008 (EST)

Is there any way to use him as a fence after completing the Sins of the Father quest on an Xbox 360? I'm playing on a live profile so I suppose I have any patch available. I have received both Sins of the Father and Arrow of Extrication quests, but I haven't started either of them.

[edit] Sitting

How does he sit on his chest when it is not a chair? (Helper Unknown)99.237.166.44 19:01, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

It turns out that question has a rather interesting answer. In fact, he's not really sitting on his chest but on a stool (TGFathisChairRef of type LCStool01F) that's embedded in it. The stool is exactly the same height as the chest so it looks like the chest is the seat. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 06:12, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Bartering

At approximately 12:02 pm, I was able to barter with Fathis Ules. I followed him to the "King and Queens Tavern". This seems to be the only place he will barter with me. - Guy Patterson

See the Bugs section...I suspect the first one is the problem here. --Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 17:59, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Can't use him as a fence!

I have completed the quest Sins of the Father, and now I was going to complete the Thieves Guild questline, but it comes out that there is that bug which is written in the website... So I tried using the unofficial patch, but when I try to talk to him, the game unexpectedly closes... Is there something I can do? -- Alija

You would probably have to go back to a slightly earlier save. —Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 02:49, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Master of Mercantile? What?

On his page, he is listed as the master of the mercantile skill. I was under the impression that Palonirya was the master, but when I look at her page, it lists her as expert. Is this a mistake or am I going crazy? Filia 21:05, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

You're both correct and incorrect. Palonirya provides master level Mercantile training, but only has a mercantile leevel of 80 (Expert). Fathis Ules has a skill level of 100 (Master), but doesn't offer training in the skill. It's kind of confusing, but that's how the game is set up. Dlarsh^{(Talk,Contribs,E-mail)} 21:16, 4 October 2009 (UTC)