Oblivion talk:Janus Hassildor

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Contents 1 Typo in top section 2 Janus 3 Bruma? 4 Glitch 5 Style 6 More walking around... 7 Bela Lugosi 8 Adventuring 9 Sugar Daddy 10 feeding 11 VN tag

[edit] Typo in top section

Sorry to inflict my newbie-ness upon the talk pages, however, I can't figure out how to edit that very top paragraph. It should read "vampires are a problem for Janus Hassildor". I'm a stickler for spelling and grammar, what can I say. --CharmSpell 09:05, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

Figured it out, I was so used to seeing the little text "Edit" next to all the titles, I forgot about the little "edit" tab at the top. --CharmSpell 09:09, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

Just too quick for me! The other benefit of the edit tab at the top is that you can edit the whole page. That's very useful if you want to fix the spelling and grammar on an entire article rather than having to do one paragraph at a time. --Rpeh^Talk 09:12, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Janus

Is it worth mentioning that Janus was a Roman god with two faces? It seems an appropriate name for the Count, given his vampirism. Wikipedia has more, of course. --Rpeh^Talk 03:28, 11 August 2007 (EDT)

It's been discussed at Oblivion Talk:Easter Eggs#Janus Hassildor, where the conclusion seemed to be that Janus is a common Romanian name and therefore there is not a clear connection to the roman god. --Nephele^Talk 03:39, 11 August 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Bruma?

I just saw him exiting Castle Bruma, something I have never seen before. Does he have business there or was it just a bug? Dark Echo 20:06, 21 December 2007 (EST)

There have been several cases where players have seen the Count in odd places; I've personally had him approach me at the bottom of a couple of cave systems, say "Please go" and walk off. His standard AI doesn't take him outside his castle (except on the one MG quest) so what you've seen is definitely a bug, just nothing out of the ordinary. —Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 06:35, 29 December 2007 (EST)

i have seen him in the arena sewers and he had dialog for the imperial city

[edit] Glitch

I have found a glitch while doing the vampire cure quest and imformation at a price at the same time. While I was in bloodcrust looking for a vampire that seemed to have dissapeared, Janus walked into the cave and told me to go. Now I looked for the other vampire for a while but quit after about 30 minutes. There was then an update over xbox live after which i went to the cave and found the last vampire (after I killed him the quest update came up) and went to the castle. When I speak with Hal-Liurz she tells me to wait while she gets the count but then just stands there. I have searched the whole castle in vain trying to find the count but he is nowhere to be found. This predicament is halting my progress with both quests. If anyone has info on how to solve this without restarting my game(as i have no saves previous to this event)please contact me at mjbeier@shaw.ca

P.S. I believe i used the font of renewal during these quests as well which may have caused teh glitch but i still was able to drink the cure.

The main page already warns about the dangers of mixing the Hassildor-related quests. There's nothing that can be done I'm afraid. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 07:39, 5 February 2008 (EST)

I think i have made an amazing discovery. While I was ramdomly jumping on buildings in the skingrad castle courtyard I found a secret. If you jump up the railing on one of the staircases (the one on the right when you first walk in), and jump to the roof you can actually reach the edge of the map. If you peek over the edge at a certain point you can see the passageway to the chamber of the lost. If you jump down to it and go to the door, slowly walk of the end where the door is and you can go inside where low and behold our friend Janus Hassildor is waiting inside. Talk to him to the Information at a price quest. To exit you have to go out the door and fast travel to any location as the passage is still technically blocked off. After which you can go to Hal-Liurz to finish the Vampire Cure quest as she will take you into the chamber of the lost.--Crazydax 16:24, 9 February 2008 (EST)

[edit] Style

this is just a random question but whats the fur coat he wearing i want one :p .--Umbacano 10:06, 23 February 2008 (EST)

It's actually a shirt - "UpperShirt02" is its name in the CS. You can find one on the second floor of Heinrich Oaken-Hull's house in Anvil. Primo Antonius, one of the residents of Summitmist Manor during Whodunit?, also owns one as do a few other NPCs. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 03:15, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Thanks you saved a whole lotta trouble :) .--Umbacano 10:06, 2 March 2008 (EST)

Does it cover your shirt greaves, boots, and curiass or is it just a plain shirt?.--Umbacano 07:57, 5 March 2008 (EST)

Upper and lower body. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 14:00, 5 March 2008 (EST)

One last question is it on the clothing section? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Umbacano (talk • contribs).

Yep. –Eshe^talk19:57, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

[edit] More walking around...

I just accepted the Bloodcrust Cavern quest from him, and upon exiting Skingrad (in broad daylight), I met old Janus taking a stroll down the road. He even started a conversation, stating that he saw my fight with the Gray Prince... ahaha.

He seemed fine, until I talked to him again and his skin suddenly started to boil.

Apparently, he made it back inside, because when I later showed up to say hi, he was in his bedchambers. Ended up killing off twelve of his guards who were after me too, but that's another story. -_^

So yeah, I think he has a tendency to go off on his own and "explore." Bravest vampire I can think of.

[edit] Bela Lugosi

Am I the only one who thinks that Hassildor looks a lot like Bela Lugosi? 24.136.144.118 14:48, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Adventuring

A curious thing. I'm not sure where this should go. While both the "vampire cure" and "confront the king" quests were simultaneously active, I ran into Janus in the Echo Cave. I was having a bit of trouble with an ancient ghost, and he came running up from out of nowhere and started fighting it. What was he doing there? When I talk to him, all he would tell me were Rumors, and when the ghost was dead, he briskly left the cave.

So I don't know if spelunking is a hobby of his, or if he was helping me out because I was a fellow vampire, or if he specifically gets involved in that quest, or what, but I thought it was wacky. Also, the Count is kind of hard core. This was on the Xbox 360. Krone03 12:38, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Sugar Daddy

I can only confirm this for my self, but last night I completed the cure for vampirisme quest and collected my reward as a vampire before drinking the cure myself (I started the quest because of course I didn't want to be a vamp any more). Afterwards I drank the cure and sneaked back to Janus' room and talked to him. wouldn't you know the "reward" button was still available for selection so I did, and sure enough I got the 10000 gold ( I think it might be a leveled reward) reward again...and again ... and again. So far it has continued to work.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.185.18.207 (talk • contribs) on 3 november 2008.

You know, trying to read the article here would make you realise that your bug is already described here.--LordDagon^T|C 11:19, 3 November 2008 (EST)

[edit] feeding

I was pickpocketing the count and I noted that i cant feed on him. anyone know if this happens to them?--65.30.21.68 13:04, 30 November 2008 (EST)

Read the "Feeding" section of the Vampirism page. Felindre 13:22, 14 December 2008 (EST)

After waking-up from a good nights' sleep in my Bravil house, I was shocked to find the Count of Skingrad stood next to my bed! When I spoke to him there were no new topics, after which he just calmly walked out of my house! - Perky 11:08, 16 May 2009 (EDT)

[edit] VN tag

According to this edit, the glowing red vampire is only caused by certain mods. If this is the case, the note should be removed from the article. I would do it, but there may be another explaination that I am unaware of. Dlarsh^{(Talk,Contribs,E-mail)} 03:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I did remove it and put a much more reasonable note down. He does NOT turn bright red. But my note got deleted and the wrong one put back up.--Kri-Dar 17:05, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Let's get this straight. I undid your edit because you removed a VN tag without explanation, since you provided no edit summary. So "the wrong one" + the VN tag was put back up. In addition your note is not completely correct: the reason why he doesn't die is due to the fact that sun damage is not a constant effect and therefore will only slightly affect an NPC vampire (as stated here), not because he is essential. Now, if you have indeed found that the present note is incorrect feel free to remove the VN and leave an explanation in your edit summary. Also, don't include the "doesn't die because essential" bit please. --SerCenKing ^Talk 17:21, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I changed it again and I put your little editing note in. Vampires do not turn bright red in sunlight under any circumstances so the VR tag is no longer needed since I verified it.--Kri-Dar 18:09, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, after I completed the Vampire Cure quest, I found him in the courtyard and he DID turn to bright red, so you may want to double check this just to be sure.--S'drassa 18:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I checked 3 times!!!!It must only happen now and then, I'll check again and edit it accordingly.--Kri-Dar 18:35, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I just forced him outside via the console and while I see some fairly intense red and yellow colouring at times due to HDR, it's no worse than it is for anybody else with a similar skin colour (Foul Fagus, for instance). Is the "bright red" that people have experienced just a result of that, or is it something else? —Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 06:43, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I am pretty sure it is. It seems different for each user who has seen this. I think "bright red" will do for now until its looked into further --Kri-Dar 12:13, 22 November 2009 (UTC)